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Supernatural season 11 - Darkness is here by LaiWinchester

We already know the titles for episodes 1-4 but 5-7 are still unknown.

Episode 8 title revealed: Just My Imagination
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In reply to BoGirle :D

No honey, I don't want everything to be peachy keen between them brothers, not for a whole season. I want some drama. Remember when Sam said the once he felt like he had a darkness in him? Remember that demon blood? This is the ideal season to bring that to a thrilling and satisfying conclusion. Not the poor excuse fans are giving his so called demon free situation. The church scene in Sacrifice is what I'm referring to. But it doesn't seem like the demon blood issue wont be done and dusted with this season. Anyway I've already put my thoughts out there about that subject. Moving on :)

Sam wasn't evil when he drank demon blood. He did so for a righteous purpose and that was to defeat Lilith. I prefer to call this Sam bad-ass.

Calling Sam evil as soulless is laughable (sorry not trying to sound mean >.<;). It pales in comparison to Azazel's level of evil for example or that version of Sam from Yellow fever.

Sam is evil because he let his brother rot in purgatory,' 'Sam is evil because he's got an rogue angel inside him,' and 'Sam is evil because he's the bigger monster.'


What? Are you looking for a pure Sam with no faults? Because that sounds stale. We haven't had a proper evil Sam since Yellow Fever! What you're talking about is us perceving these actions as evil yet Sam feels he's doing the right thing (like consuming that demon blood. He thought it was the right thing to do). The evil I'm talking about is, another example, the seven deadly sins forcing that poor guy to drink that stuff and laugh as he dies in agony. Thats evil!

Another example of what I mean by evil is one who is able to feel these evil emotions, to have a cruel passion to do something such as Azazel did by burning Mary on the ceiling when John walked in.

Bring it on S11. I can't wait!
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Official season 11 poster:

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What on earth is going on with their faces? Creepy.


I saw that on Twitter and immediately got excited and thought "Evil Sammy?!" Oh my god I frigging hope so! As excited as I am there's that part of my mind reminding me I may be let down.
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And season 11 SUPERNATURAL PROMO!



I think I am scared for all of them. :o

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Official season 11 poster:

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What on earth is going on with their faces? Creepy.
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The Winchesters will need all the help they can get battling The Darkness, which brings us to Season 11's theme: "You can't outrun your past." Dean and Sam "have to make some unexpected and unholy alliances involving folks from their past, which will have personal ramifications," exec producer Jeremy Carver reveals. Will any of said people be fan faves who died? "We're talking about a fight that is going to incorporate the likes of Heaven and Hell and those on Earth. So there's certainly opportunity to see folks that have departed," the EP replies. Perhaps one of them can provide some answers, because "there's a lot of mystery to not only what or who The Darkness is" – maybe it's a she? – "but what The Darkness wants," Carver says. And while Castiel will be working alongside the brothers, he first needs to "find a way out of this spell that Rowena has cast."

BONUS SPOILER!: Praise be! "We're going to see more of a vintage Crowley in terms of scheming, less caring about Dean and Sam," Carver shares.
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Now I really don't know which way the story is going and how the Darkness is. This is a new actress and not Emily Swallow so maybe we fave been tricked. Unknowing the real deal excites me when I already thought I knew how things are.
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Episode titles thus far:

#1101: Out of the Darkness, into the Fire
#1102: Form and Void (Pending)
#1103: The Bad Seed
#1104: Baby

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They are making Lizzie Borden episode what I also got from the clip. Don't know what number it will be.
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Season 11 preview video. Very bad quality but what I saw was interesting. Will post a better one when it is online.

Video can be found here: Season 11 preview It is legit but don't know where it is got.

Name of the first episode seems to be clear too.

Supernatural episode #1101 seems to be "Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire"

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Question: Supernatural scoop, please! —Shirin

Ausiello: Remember how executive producer Jeremy Carver teased at Comic-Con that some fan favorite characters will return in Season 11 (premiering Oct. 7), and in surprising ways? It sounds like their reappearance could be tied to the new Big Bad. “As responsible as the boys feel for having released The Darkness and how much they personally want to defeat it, they’re not going to be able to do it alone,” the EP tells TVLine. “They’re going to have to confront some figures from their past. They’re going to have to make some unexpected and unholy alliances involving folks from their past, which will have personal ramifications, as well. Because these are some pretty significant figures from their past.”

They are not revealing who those past people are and I kinda like this fact. I want the big spoilers to to stay that way. They gave out Benny, Death and Bobby last season and I can only think that I would have screamed out loud if I had seen them from the episode itself.
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37 days! Little over a month to season 11 ya'll. :)

So here is a small bit from WFB twitter:

WFB Supernatural ‏@WinFamBusiness 8 hours ago
#VanCon @jared (claiming we heard it from @JensenAckles!): We may hear more about S&D being Michael's & Lucifer's vessels this season ...

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Fresh from the press! At least what Jared is teasing us from EW

Because the Darkness is a pre-Biblical entity that God fought off many, many, many years ago, there’s a good chance the brothers will need God’s help to figure out how to defeat it. There’s also the chance that they’ll have to turn to Lucifer. Basically, at this point, nothing’s off limits.

“I think [the Darkness] certainly opens the door for Lucifer and/or God to pop up,” Jared Padalecki said. ”We’re certainly going back to that and going a bit more biblical and having our take on the writings that didn’t make it into the Bible.”

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Not sure if this starts at episode two so will put it here.

From a tweet, SnazzyO @SnazzyO
#MinnCon Jared M&G *spoiler alert* a Reaper is pissed at S&D for killing Death. Tells boys if they die they won't come back (off to ether).
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So, new spoilers!

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/ and also reported at WFB

What makes the Darkness unlike any other threat the Winchesters have faced?

Jeremy Carver: For starters, it becomes fully apparent what the Darkness wants. It’s not just a threat for the boys, but a threat to angels and demons as well. In some ways, it’s a more global threat. I say that and it sounds big and comic book-y almost, but there’s certain incredibly related things about the Darkness that grounds it in a way “Supernatural” does. Once we fully start to understand what the Darkness is all about, everybody is going to realize there is a very relatable story here and a lot of unfinished business for the Darkness side. I don’t think the Darkness thinks that the Darkness is a threat at all. Hopefully, sometimes that is the best Big Bad: They think they are the hero of their own story.

Introduce us to the character Amara (played by Emily Swallow) and how she will be causing trouble for the Winchesters?

Andrew Dabb: I would say the character Amara, the Darkness character, for us she’s a really interesting character mainly because she’s very alien to this world. She has been locked away since the dawn of creation. She has a very interesting point of view with how she approaches everything. There are ways – because the Darkness is such a big thing – to connect a lot of our different characters in terms of the impact on the witches, the impact on Hell and on Heaven and on the guys. We’re hoping she will have a big ripple effect for us.

Now that Rowena (Ruth Connell) has gained this ultimate power, what does she want to do with it?

Dabb: she has more power than she’s ever had, maybe even more than any witch ever had. It’s interesting to see, “OK, now that you’ve got what you want, do you really want it?

Entertainment Weekly gave us this.
Will we learn what Metatron did with the demon tablet on Supernatural? — Alien Knights of Chaos

I can’t speak specifically to the demon tablet, but it’s highly likely the guys will find themselves asking for Metatron’s help yet again. While discussing how the Darkness predates the Bible — and therefore there’s not much written about it — Jared Padalecki says that Sam and Dean are going to seek any and all help they can get. “We’re going to have to maybe go to Metatron for help or Castiel, and we don’t even know what they know because the Darkness predates them as well,” he says. But rest assured, “We’re going to see the boys really stop at no end to right this wrong they’ve brought onto this Earth.” Anyone else having season 5 déjà vu

#minncon

Fangasm ‏@FangasmSPN 18 hours ago
.@dicksp8jr is directing episode 8 of #Supernatural #minncon woohoo!

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To SPNLIT, I think it has been speculation at best. Not even a rumor. That killing Death has consequences but that is all we know. I hope this helped.
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"Although Jeremy Carver, the show’s executive producer, didn’t confirm whether or not Dean would become Death 2.0, he did reveal to TVLine that the demise of Death would result in consequences “to a certain extent.” Those repercussions will be addressed “in the first batch of episodes” in Season 11, the showrunner revealed, adding that fans “can imagine that it causes some issues.”

This got me thinking. What if the character Amara has nothing to do with the darkness. What if she is actually the new Death that arrived at the same time with the Darkness. It could give us some new mythology why she was chosen and she probably wouldn't be happy from what the Winchesters have done. Don't know if Death's ring was taken by the brothers or if not she could have collected it. If Sam and Dean took it then Amara would have a reason to go after them. Hell, maybe the ring issue could bring back the four rings and it is how they could get to Lucifer and Michael. Yumm! I DON'T want Dean to be Death.

I also wish to be honest that we would get Lovecraft feel next season. Dark, scary, sinister, life or death kinda stuff and a whole lot of other things. Show could go to its roots in full throttle.
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This is a nice theory I found yesterday. About Lovecraft and the ancients.

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When many people think of Lovecraft’s work, they think of ancient gods like Cthulhu, Yog-Sothoth, and so forth. But to stop there is to miss the true theme of Lovecraftian fiction: cosmic horror. In many Lovecraftian and/or cosmic horror stories, ancient forces existed long before humans ever evolved. For one reason or another (depending on the story) they left or were forced away. I’m simplifying here, but the terror lies in the realization that these forces are coming back at some point, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it. At best, we can only delay it. And compared to these forces or gods, we are insects.

Rest you can read from the link. It sounds pretty interesting!
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I have a theory with the spoilers and BTS stuff we've been seeing. Maybe in the first episode Sam has one of his newly minted visions? Maybe that's why it seems Mitch Pileggi is there as a guest star....Grandpa Campbell comes to Sam in his vision maybe? That would be a really interesting way to start out. I'd be suspicious of visions that had Grandpa Campbell in them; I hope that Sam is terribly conflicted about the visions. I hope they are creepy and possibly threatening seeming. Anyway, maybe its in the vision that Dean is wearing the Hawaiian shirt cause I can't imagine any real world reason that would cause Dean to wear one. These visions of Sam's seem like a great plot development, and I'd love it if Dean were in the visions too along with whomever else. That would make Dean linked to what's going on with Sam, a connection that's been sorely lacking between the brothers in the last few years.
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Even more rumors and spoilers.

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Something new and something old. Don't have source on the new so take them with a grain of salt.
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So, as Jen put it we have maybe two new rumors/spoilers and will put them there. They might be nothing so be warned.

These are still left:

1. Jeffrey Dean Morgan returns as God's vessel?
2. Mark Pellegrino returns as Lucifer

New:

3. Jared Padalecki ‏@jarpad 16 h
A question from set: does Sam still have demon blood in him? I have MY opinion, but I'm hoping there's an expert out there who knows :)

4. Fangasm: The boys were careful with spoilers, but Jensen made the provocative comment, “The thing is, we never see Dean kill Cain…”
I tweeted that, and Tim Omundson responded with a “BOOM!”

He also mentioned that maybe something else happened than him killing Cain.

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Some "new" spoilers even though I think it has been mentioned already:

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Since the finale of Supernatural, fans have been wondering: Will there be consequences for Dean after he killed Death? –Ana
Rest assured there will be repercussions “to a certain extent — and probably in the first batch of episodes, we’ll start to address that,” executive producer Jeremy Carver teases. “You can imagine that it causes some issues.”

Any scoop on where our Supernatural boys will be in Season 11? Particularly Cas? —Meg
Cas has a lot on his plate, like “dealing with the effects of the attack dog spell and the stabbing of Crowley and The Darkness,” Misha Collins previews. Speaking of that pre-biblical foe, “It is a very, very big bad ominous force that angels only heard of as a scary bedtime story,” the actor explains. “Cas didn’t think that The Darkness was a real thing. So it’s that old of a force.”


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Sorry Cheryl, I meant from someone at the Cons.
Did anyone on the panels say for sure? Not the vids I saw.
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For sweet chucks sake, could somebody, anybody tell me if Dean CHOOSE to kill death or the mark made him do it?
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Other spoilers have been pretty clear but these concerning Dean make me intrigued on what will happen. Anyway, it seems all the characters would have stories connected to the myth-arc.

From Screenfad

When asked if Dean will have a particular connection to the Darkness, Ackles was very intrigued by the question. He added “and where is the Mark, is [also a big] question. There’s certainly some questions, some big questions that need to be answered as far as how, what, why, when, where and what’s going to happen. Whether or not it becomes some sort of an inner-connection because Dean did wear the Mark and now the Mark is, essentially, the key to whatever this was, there might be a connection. What [that connection is exactly], I don’t know. I haven’t seen it in the first four episodes, but there have been some flashes of things, some premonitions, so to speak. I don’t think….and I hope he doesn’t, because I’m done kind of playing the guilt that Dean feels, [but] I think he’s over the guilt. I think he’s [saying] ‘I made my bed, I’m going to lie in it’.

Killing Death. When Dean made the decision to kill Death instead of Sam, it left Supernatural fans wondering about the consequences of such an act. Ackles warned that with “the repercussions of the Mark, we got the Darkness. What the repercussions of killing Death might play into that."
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Made a new page to the first episode so this page can be used for random rumors/spoilers until they can be moved to right episode or in case of rumors wait for confirmation or are they busted.

So the episode pages will be free of spoilers and to theorize when they air.

It has been a looooong day.

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Something new:

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Question: I would love some scoop on Supernatural. —Frances

Ausiello: Later in the season, a two-part “bottle” episode will find Sam and Dean “in the same location, building off the same case,” shares EP Andrew Dabb, adding that the arc will “create a little bit of serialization we don’t do a lot of.”

Bottle episode
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In episodic television, a bottle episode is produced inexpensively and restricted in scope to use as few non-regular cast members, effects, and sets as possible. Most bottle episodes are shot on sets already built for other episodes, frequently the main interior sets for a series, and consist largely of dialogue or scenes for which no special preparations are needed.

This sounds pretty interesting. For me the bunker comes to mind.

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I was going to post this & just KNEW you would. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Cast spoilers, sort of.

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Supernatural has tapped The Mentalist’s Emily Swallow to join the Season 11 cast in a significant (and malevolent) recurring role from TVLine
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Episode 1 information.

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New information from Jim Michaels.

Jim Michaels ‏@TheJimMichaels
This young man, @dicksp8jr, will be directing an episode of @cw_spn this year! This is not a "Trick!l #SPNFamily
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Another spoiler that came up at Comic Con was that there will be no time jump. Yeah! The action picks right up after they last left off and according to JC, the nature of THE DARKNESS!!!! will reveal itself in the first 20 seconds of episode 11x1. Pretty cool. Lets just jump right in!
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So, first was busted and false. Fourth seem to be true but how many episodes is not clear.

Golf Digest

GD: Congratulations on graduating high school in June. What's next? College golf?
KN: I'm taking a year off from school because my [acting] career is taking off. I'm currently between seasons on the TV show "Supernatural," so I'll be working next year. It's not going to work—college and acting at the same time.

These rumors are still out there:

1. Jeffrey Dean Morgan returns as God's vessel?
2. Mark Pellegrino returns as Lucifer

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Nancy Won from Being Human? i watched Being Human! interesting. omg. :o
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From Comic Con and Mark A -- Shepherd LOL I get the feeling he won't be back for awhile Cas must kill him in the dog attack mode. But it is Mark so maybe he is spreading rumors. All I know is S11 is sounding GREAT --- WHY !!!! Both Jared & Jensen confirmed the BOYS ARE BACK BROTHERS FACING EVIL TOGETHER
and that to me is something to get excited about. :D :D :D :D :D And our sweet Sam hits the books and goes a little bit spiritful as in wishfull for a higher Being and Dean back to bad ass funny Dean YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Friday, September 11 2015, 09:21 PM

Listening to the interview with { Jim Michaels ?} - They are going to have a fill in episode with Lizzie Borden ( axe murder ) which sounds interesting' and a imaginary friend episode To me all sounding great this season - Roll on Season 11 :D :) ;)

Lizzie Borden
Lizzie Andrew Borden was an American woman who was tried and acquitted for the 1892 axe murders of her father and her stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. The case was a cause célèbre throughout the United States.
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I am tossing this guideline here because I am trying to keep these s11 episode discussion pages all clear of character dislikes (hate) etc. You can also make a new page about this issue or when it comes across on the main boards go right at it. This was the guideline I put and I hope people honor it.

4. For all, this is a page to analyze, speculate, discuss about the episode BUT do it past your good/bad personal opinion about the show, a character, story, writer, show runner or anything that is part of the show.
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I for one do NOT want to see Claire again. But I imagine this rumor could be true as they morphed her from whiny teenager wanting to punch Castiel in his "stupid angel face" to warrior princess hunter. She made the kill despite having no training or experience as a hunter while Sam, MOC Dean and newly re-powered Castiel were too inept to do so. Just thinking about this causing me to know I am skipping Claire episodes in season 11. SPNLIT
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Nancy Won confirmed as the new writer.

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- Too Far, Fast-Forward! (2014) ... (written by)
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- I've Got You Under Your Skin (2012) ... (written by)
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2008-2009 Brothers & Sisters (TV Series) (written by - 3 episodes)
- Missing (2009) ... (written by)
- Unfinished Business (2008) ... (written by)
- Everything Must Go (2008) ... (written by)

2007 Dirty Sexy Money (TV Series) (written by - 1 episode)
- The Country House (2007) ... (written by)

2006-2007 Jericho (TV Series) (written by - 2 episodes)
- Heart of Winter (2007) ... (written by)
- 9:02 (2006) ... (written by)
Everwood (TV Series) (written by - 2 episodes, 2005 - 2006) (writer - 1 episode, 2006)
- Truth (2006) ... (writer)
- Lost and Found (2006) ... (written by)
- Free Fall (2005) ... (written by)

Few rumors remain:

1. One regular character will not be back a while (I think it was said for about 8 episodes) All others than Sheppard seen.
2. Jeffrey Dean Morgan returns as God's vessel?
3. Mark Pellegrino returns as Lucifer
4. Claire will be back to more episodes
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Just who is considered ''regular'' these days? J2M2??????:)
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Few rumors from twitter land. I haven't seen confirmation about these.

1. One regular character will not be back a while (I think it was said for about 8 episodes)
2. They have hired a new female writer called Nancy

Remember, take these as a grain of salt still until we hear something more official than a word "around there".

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Putting this up just in time for San Diego Comic Con 2015 because they will usually kick off the first spoilers for Supernatural there. Stay tuned.

Remember, anyone can add things to discuss.

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