The Winchester Family Business

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 14:44 pm

You had to go and bring up Oz.Honestly I had completely forgotten that adventure.Or buried it deep, deep in the recess of my mind.How is it she can single handedly win a war there and yet she’s is slaughtered in[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 13:23 pm

I think as Dean matures he is getting closer to being able to say "I love you" and still be in character.I don't think he's quite there yet.And it will probably be along the lines of "I love you, you[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 12:29 pm

We can argue ad nauseum about Charlie, Eli Manning, Bruce Springsteen being special while Pete was a Tim Tebow, Joe Biden but to what end?You despise Robbie and Charlie.Got it.You mean a writer caved to fan reaction.And so what if[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 12:23 pm

I don't rewatch them either but I did after Jared's comments in Rome (he brought it up at another con too).Other than when he was outside his bedroom (when Lucifer was out of site) he was nervous and jumpy every[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 12:18 pm

I disagree,Shocker...

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 06:54 am

Thats the scene where Chuck tells Sam not to be afraid of Lucifer whilst he's around yes? Even so I still expect him to be nervous, not completely unfazed! Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't wish to scene those[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 02:25 am

Going from the recent DVD commentary, Mark P is an accomplished boxer, and according to Jensen it's shit your pants scary how close he can swing a fist to your face without touching you.

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 02:22 am

I disagree, that episode was the first time Charlie was written as an actual character and not put on a pedestal due to Robbie writing her. And her death made sense. Not just in episode, but also in a broader[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 22, 2018 | 02:13 am

With Sam and Dean, it was less about creativity and more causing havoc in their names and likeness.And the only reason they weren't copied again was because they were declared dead and to bring them back to life again would[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:56 pm

I think where they went a little wrong with Charlie was when they had her kill a teenage werewolf (?).Charlie who "practically sparkled" shouldn't have gone down that road.That was where Robbie went a little too far.I still loved her[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:49 pm

That isn't what Roman meant.Charlie's "spark", what made her Charlie couldn't be copied.A lesson he learned when he copied Sam and Dean.All of her memories, thoughts and feelings could be copied but not what made her who she was. As[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:29 pm

Her first appearance Dick Roman literally tells her she is too special to copy. What? Sam's Leviathan was so perfect it was getting Lucifer hallucinations, but a ginger lesbian that's good with computers is too much for a Leviathan? That[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:24 pm

I wouldn't say it invalidated season 6, hindsight. Would it have been nice to know about demon-killing knives before season 3? Sure. Or that John knew the ritual to summon Azazel, and didn't use it the minute he got the[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:24 pm

Nate and I discussed why Wayward Sisters didn't make either of our lists but "Bloodlines" did.There was one major variable."Wayward Sisters," despite it's failure, did try and stay true to the franchise.They used characters that were familiar to us and[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:18 pm

Disappointed that there was no "Wayward Sisters". Now that one failed on two fronts, as a compelling pilot and an episode of Supernatural. I'd even say it was worse than "Bloodlines" for the sheer fact that at least "Bloodlines" wrote[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:17 pm

But better yet, the same being who TORTURED him for many MANY years! And I see Lucifer acting like a bratty teen with Sam being okay around him?Actually this is the episode that Jared talked about at conventions at the[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 23:17 pm

Okay Nathan, I promised some thoughts on your list.While I can’t argue much about any of your choices, some I have more to say about some than others.10.Red Sky at Morning.This was on my very first “Worst List”, back when[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 22:38 pm

Wow, that's a thorough breakdown!I think it proves for the most part that every writer is capable on one stinker, but there are two sets of writers that just don't seem to care and will write what they want.That approach[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 22:23 pm

That's definitely not the intent of these lists!Even Eric Kripke knew when he had stinkers and chose to make fun of them in episodes like "Monster at the End of The Book."My issue, especially in the later seasons, is that[…]

Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice and Nate's Take On...The Ten Worst Episodes of "Supernatural," #1-5

Sep 21, 2018 | 13:35 pm

Remember that banshee episode? The person who played that was on wires, and they were from the famous cirque du soleil. What made them think that Jensen and Mark P. could hope to match the same mastery on wires?

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