I've said this before I'll say this again. GAH!!!  IS IT FRIDAY YET???


Blue Steel
# Blue Steel 2012-03-17 22:00


This sounds like Sam's version of Faith in a way. Glad we finally got to see some of Sam in this episode.

What did Sam do to himself? :cry:
Tim the Enchanter
# Tim the Enchanter 2012-03-18 03:37
Oh my God. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Oh. My. God. (Deep inhale of breath) Ooooh my God, oh my God (rinse and repeat for the next six days.)

Okay, okay. Logical thoughts. I wonder what Sam did to get himself institutionalis ed. (And who institutionalis ed him? Did he do it himself?) I mean, he was functional, though tired, in the last episode so what has changed? It must have been one major incident for it to be thought that he's safer in an institution (drugged up/locked up (?) in one freaking place) when there are Leviathans around. Given what we've seen about them in the past they're pretty much everywhere, tracking the boys non-stop so I'd have thought a hospital would be a really dangerous place to be with them around.

Sam, Dean and Lucifer; three of my favourite men all together in one room. (Though Lucifer, kindly do not interrupt the boys when they are having a moment. It's so freaking rare they do, the last thing they need is you screwing it up.)

Love how (from this scene) it's almost like a direct reversal of Faith, where now it's Dean who is desperate to save Sam and Sam is all 'It is what it is.'

It's heartbreaking how Sam is not even angry about what's happening (Jeez, he’s more concerned about Dean than he is about himself), he's just accepted it. Maybe he's been seeing it as inevitable for a long time now and he’s preparing Dean for it. Holy shit, has Sam finally given up the good fight?? Sam, an angry Winchester is a fighting Winchester so get angry. (Though Sam has been fighting to keep Deans, and his own, head about water all season, I can imagine he's well 'tired'.)

In a horrible way, I think Sam would find a strange sort of solace in death and a (possible) return to the Cage. At least the uncertainty of the ‘real world’ would be gone. Dean, you know what you gotta do, buddy.....

This could be the capstone on Dean’s rebirth (as it were). He’s been given (numerous) true purpose(s) of hunting, his relationship with Sam is growing stronger (I hope), so maybe this, refinding the protective ‘big brother’ role will be what meshes the three of those together and gives us back ‘The Dean’. He couldn't save Sam from hell, but he can save him from this hell.

This is as excited as I’ve been about an episode in a long, long time. Between the soullessness and the wall of last year and the hand-press of this year keeping hell/Lucifer at bay, Sam’s hell has been pushed down the river for a long time now so I feel a delve into his head is kinda overdue. I don’t care how long or short it is. Hell, I don’t care if this 1.50sec clip is all we see, I’m happy.

Oh and Sam, if you only bring one thing out of your sojourn in the hospital, don’t let it be a razor. The stubbly look is good.

Thanks Alice. (And thanks show!)
Lady Strawberry
# Lady Strawberry 2012-03-18 04:15
I am climbing walls already. The webclip alone has me crying my eyes out. I honestly have no idea how I'm supposed survive this episode, I think I'm gonna end up the same place Sam is in the webclip.

Oh Sam :''''''( The hopelessness and his acceptance of dying is just heartbreaking. I can't form any coherent sentences anymore, I'm an emotional mess hanging by a thread. I'm very excited for the episode though. But I'm afraid as well. My heart's going to be ripped to shreds. I just want both boys to be happy. :''( I just want them to be okay.

One other thing though. Is it just me or does Lucifer seem kind of different in the way he's acting? I mean of course he's snarky, but in a weird way he even sounds like he's honestly some kind of worried about Sam giving up.

This is going to be one hell of an episode I assume. Pretty sure I'm facing my own personal mental breakdown until I watch the episode and then another one when I'm really watching the episode.

Sam! :''''''(((
Dean! :'''((
Tim the Enchanter
# Tim the Enchanter 2012-03-18 04:34
Going slightly off topic. Sam looks really freaking long in that bed. Not wide, (kinda narrow actually, must be the white) but really, really long.
# ScrewConsciousness 2012-03-18 05:05
Kind of off topic as well. I know this probably doesn't belong here, but I had to write this down, because my head is swirling with all these thoguths and emotions concering the next episode and this clip isn't helping with calming down at all, so please don't be mad at me.

So. I was just re-reading the official description and there it says "Lucifer drives Sam to the breaking point". What exactly will he do to poor Sam? :'(

Now I watched the preview-clip for the 10th time or something and I just can't help but think about Sam's bandaged hand/wrist having something to do with it. Will Lucifer push Sam so far that Sam thinks the only possible way to maybe get rid of Lucifer is by cutting himself (kind of like he pushed his hand before - but that as we know isn't working any longer) and opening the old wound or maybe even something worse I don't even want to write down, because it totally collides with everything the both Winchesters have done and are up to this point. The fighting and all, but then again... Sam seems really really bad, really exhausted. Is this why he ultimately ends up in the hospital? I mean not just because of his hallucinations and all of that, but maybe because he was such a danger to himself, that he maybe was about to - and believe me this is so against everything Sam is (but... desperate times) - kill himself and that is why Dean got him into the hospital? Maybe it was accidently, not on purpose, but in the way that he thought it would maybe work just like it did with the hand trick?

God, this episode will kill me. And then the Lucifer singing "Stairway to Heaven"-thing comes to my mind and I can't help but think this is meant as some kind of forshadowing.

Ugh, someone help me here. :'( I feel like going crazy with all of these thoughts and emotions. And all of that because of a tv series... Talking about crazy. Obviously I'm no better.
# Gwen 2012-03-18 05:24
This clip is AWESOME! I am so excited for this episode, more than I've been in a very, very long time. This is what I've been waiting for since 7.02. And, finally, we get to see a Hospitalised!Sa mmy! It is absolutely heartbreaking to see how worn down, exhausted and defeated Sam is in this clip.

And why the bandage on his wrist? What's Sammy done?? :eek: :cry:

He's gone through so much in his life and kept battling through it all but now it seems he just can't fight anymore. Oh, the poor, poor boy. I just want to hug him and cuddle him and feed him tea and biscuits and somehow make everything better for him.

I too hope that this is what gives us back 'The Dean'. I can't wait to see the protective big brother-liness.

And we get more Lucifer!! So very happy to see Lucifer back again because I love the character...and because he gives me fabulous Sam angst.

Oh, I could ramble on forever about this clip and how much I love it. But I'll shut up now. :lol:
# Sharon 2012-03-18 09:21
:sad: :cry: that is all I have to say.
# Supernarttu 2012-03-18 13:33

I wish now that I hadn't seen this since I'm gonna be climbing the walls the rest of the week!



Lucifer! Love him and his snark!
# Anon 2012-03-18 14:00
What a brilliant clip!!! Friday can't come quick enough! Been waiting for this episode for a long long time!!

Love seeing Dean being back in protective mode!! But Sam is just breaking my heart in this clip. So resigned to death and concerned for Dean. Props to Jared for the acting of a bone tired Sam. You can just see it in his posture and hear it in his tone. Poor boy!!

Is it Friday yet??? Oh and the stubble.... Needs to be a recurring guest star :)
# rmoats8621 2012-03-18 14:17
Finally!!!!!! About freakin' time!!! Looking forward to Friday, but must remember to stock up on tissues, snacks, drinks and put the phone on DND! :D
# milly 2012-03-18 18:00
I can't wait until Friday!! I lost the number how many time I saw this clip. It's very very sad poor Sammy.
Blue Steel
# Blue Steel 2012-03-19 00:38
If you listen to how Sam is talking here, it is very close to the resigned air of Hell Sam in TMWKTM. That's worrisome, very worrisome.

I'm also noticing that Sam is not reacting to Lucifer, not interacting, but maybe the problem is he can't shut him off anymore. So he can't stop hearing him and seeing him. Like in Hell.
# Merannoeu 2012-03-19 00:44
I feel like I could be Sam and Dean's Mom!
I may be the only one, but I see this clip and think back starting to Season one, episode one when Sam and Dean were younger and full of life. I can't reconcile Sam in Stanford standing next to Jess and looking at Dean with Sam in this clip with except with tragic angst. They had their moments of downs, sure but with this season, I am starting to wonder if they are too far in the current.

Slightly off base--if Lucifer is in fact really part of Sam's subconscious (as was argued he might be in Repo Man), then Lucifer's comments about Dean are rather disturbing. But only IF that is the case.

Wonder if we'll see any more interesting hallucinations...
I think a better touch would have been to have Lucifer have kept talking non-stop when after Dean left the room and Sam was sitting there looking to the side...
# Jen 2012-03-19 03:30
I was thinking the same thing. The comments about Dean are disturbing, if they are in fact really Sam's thoughts (far deep down). What exactly is Lucifer saying when Dean enters the room. English isn't my mother tongue and though I normally understand everything without having any problems sometimes they talk a bit too fast for me.

It's "Mr Helpless..." right? Is that directed at Dean or Sam? And then something with a 6 Pack? Would be great if you can help me out here. :)

Anyway, this episode will involve a whole lot of climbing the walls from my side. :) Can't wait for friday!
Birgit Säberg
# Birgit Säberg 2012-03-19 02:06
Aaaah! GAH! Is it Friday *checking* NOO!

Sam and Dean should really be angry at Cas, HE broke the wall!

Is it Friday yet? *checking* NO!!!

Can't wait!
# Creepy-Creeper 2012-03-19 18:11
what did sam do?!?! oh my god.. i feel so fucking bad right now. dean winchester, the older brother with shit self-esteem. sam winchester, the suicidal younger brother. how could eric kripke and sera gamble do this to me-er-us. friday is taking way too long!!!!!
# Sylvie 2012-03-20 12:52
OH MY GOD!!!! I CANNOT WAIT. Sorry for the all caps, but Lucifer and Meg and Castiel all in one episode? I said it and I'll say it again...CANNOT WAIT!
# Alexandra 2012-03-20 13:18
Sammy doesn't look crazy to me, just exhausted and ill. I read somewhere that Dean would put him in there for his own safety. Sounds plausible.

This is a really important episode for Sam, after his story being put aside for an almost entire season. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another Castiel episode like it happened with TMWKTM. :-?
# shadowhund 2012-03-20 17:44
It will be not a Sam centric episode. Jared himself said this at a con! Its a Dean centric episode and maybe this part of episode 17 is the best we get about Sam and all we get about Sam. I am prepared for much Dean/Castiel and little Sam in this episode, and the best part of the episode is probably this clip (for me)!!
I am so resigned and weary regarding the return of trench that I (although I love this whole clip) I expect nothing more of Sam in this episode. Its like in "Let It Bleed" Sam was knocked out by demons and locked away!!!! Sounds familiar!!! So Castiel could come and save Dean and has his "conversations" with Dean without Sam interruption, and Lisa and Ben could interact with Dean without Sam disturbing the whole scenerie!!! And SG wrote it too!!!
# Alice 2012-03-20 18:27
Jared though told Zap2It recently it was Sam centric. He compared it to When The Levee Breaks. I think it'll be right down the middle between Sam and Dean.
# Alexandra 2012-03-20 19:09
Yes, I heard that this will be like When The Levee Breaks (one of my favorite ever) and Heart in terms of Sam angst, so I have high hopes fot it. I just don't want to be disappointed like I was in TMWKTM, one from which I expected a lot. It's not that Jared's acting wasn't fantastic, but Castiel ended up with the spotlight. Not this time, please! I want the focus to be Dean/Sam, not Dean/Castiel.
# KELLY 2012-03-20 21:57
The more I watch this clip (and I told myself I wasn't going to and then succumbed anyway) the more I think that Sam has been trying to prepare Dean for life without him. That's why in Season 7 Time of a Wedding he told him it would be good he could start taking care of himself. Even though clearly Sam's never needed him more.

He's resigned to his fate, but he's been holding as long as he could until Dean could recover from Bobby's death. Ok now I'm going to make myself start crying at work. Poor Sammy! Poor Dean! Friday can't get here fast enough.
I want protective big brother Dean back too. Screw non-codependenc e. Sam needs his brother. Independence is for people who HAVEN'T been to Hell.
# sylvia37 2012-03-21 04:38
Man, it is so hard to watch Sam just give up like that. We've seen him keep fighting through so so much.....ugh.

There's something in my eye.....sniff.