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Episode spoilers from Comic Con interviews:

Episode 1-2 are the search and rescue mission to find Sam
Episode 3 is a 'very cool ghost story'
Episode 4 is psychics
Episode 5 is the return of the Thule society (featuring Hitler in some form!)
Episode 6 is set at a hunters wake where they are in room playing hunter drinking games
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New casting spoiler! The Fall star Bronagh Waugh lands role on hit US series Supernatural

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Speaking exclusively to VIP Magazine, she said, “I’ve just finished on Supernatural.
“It’s a pretty badass role, but that’s all I can say. Supernatural fans are amazing. They find everything out. You’ve got to be so, super careful about everything.
“It’s a very, very different role from anything that I’ve played before. It’s exciting. There’s lots of stunts in it, and lots of fighting. It was really cool.”
Bronagh’s scenes on Supernatural won’t be airing until the Autumn, but we’ll certainly be keeping an eye out!
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For those who can't get the SyFy interview with Misha Collins on Castiel in season 12 clip here's a rough transcript

When 12 picks up where’s Cas? What’s he up to? What’s his place in 12

Misha: For a long time, I think Castiel has been hampered by one problem or another. His powers are diminished or he’s just feeling so bad about himself because he’s screwed up so badly. So we’re starting off the season with Cas angry and determined to fix things. So we’re staring season 12 with sort of badass Cas, more like he was in season 4. I think for a long time Cas has been kind of broken. For the moment he’s not broken. I don’t think people on our show stay unbroken for very long, but for now he’s angry, he’s badass and he’s on a mission.
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Supernatural: Jensen Ackles, EP Preview Dean and Sam's 'Happy' Reunion, Taken Homage

The brothers’ quest to do just that is complicated by a number of factors. After being shot by Lady Toni in the Season 11 finale, “Sam’s going through hell with the British Men of Letters” who have captured the hunter, executive producer Robert Singer previews. He’s also under the impression that Dean defeated The Darkness and, thus, is dead. “As far as [Sam] knows, the bomb blew up, and that’s what saved the world.”

Adds star Jensen Ackles: Sammy “has no reason to believe Dean would even be coming for him.”

Meanwhile, the elder Winchester is in the dark about his little bro’s whereabouts — but not for long. “Dean’s got to figure out quickly what has happened, where he is, and then it turns into a bit of Taken,” Ackles shares. There’s even a direct shout-out to Liam Neeson’s famous “I will find you” line from the film franchise, the actor reveals.

The good news: That rescue mission “doesn’t take up too many episodes – we get that over with pretty quickly – but they’re action-packed, and all our characters are involved,” Singer says.

And once the Winchesters are reunited, it’s nothing but love. Declares Singer: “They’re happy to see each other.”
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Some new casting info from Ruthie Connell.

Ruth Connell‏ ♕@RuthieConnell
Ladies (and gents) I present some new #spntottie welcome @adamfergus #yourewelcome

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Adam Fergus was born in Drogheda, Ireland and was raised in the nearby village of Laytown. He attended the University College Dublin, graduating in 2002 with a Bachelor of Arts degree. He studied acting at The Gaiety School of Acting in 2003. Cutting his acting teeth in theater, Adam made his first screen appearance in 2004 on the television series "Proof". Adam swayed evenly between films, film shorts and television appearances. He gained stronger recognition with his roles in the romance film "Satellites and Meteorites" (2008) and then as regular cast member of the Canadian comedy series "Being Erica" (2010-2011) (TV).

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Osric Chau posted this video of the trailer shown at Comic Con

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Some great interviews from ShowbizJunkies can be found here.
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Both SDCC Comic Con part 1 and 2 panels up at the WFB vids page and the full one!
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Interviews etc. from Hypable, YAELTV, Whedonopolis Videos, Access Hollywood can be found here.
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San Diego Supernatural Comic Con NerdHQ x2 videos can be found in WFB's vids page.
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Supernatural @ Comic-Con: Sam and Dean's New Vulnerability, Lucifer vs. Cas and 'Old-Fashioned Horror Stories' from TVLine

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Mom’s comeback “presents a dynamic that we haven’t had in quite a while — or ever,” Jensen Ackles previewed. “When mom left, Sam was a baby and Dean was a child. The children that she knew are now men, so the relationship is kind of nonexistent because there isn’t one. It’s an interesting situation, them trying to bridge that massive gap.”
Since Mary wasn’t around for most of the boys’ lives, “She’s been mythologized to them,” executive producer Andrew Dabb said. “[But] she has a lot in common with them [as hunters]. She’ll be coming back into that.” (It might not necessarily be a happy return to hunting, though. A teaser trailer for Season 12 featured Mary telling Dean, “I never wanted this for you and Sam.”)

Although having a mother “is something they deeply want,” the brothers “more than anybody else understand that family can be a vulnerability” and lead to an attack, the EP continued.
“We find out more about what family means and how you become family,” Jared Padalecki shared. Sam and Dean with their mother are starting anew. Does blood make you family, or is it more than just DNA?”
Castiel, knowing how important Mary is in Dean and Sam’s origin story, also has a “very specific response to her” and “a very cool” bond with her of his own, Dabb previewed. Added his portrayer Misha Collins: “There’s an interesting little dynamic between the two of us because in a way, we’re outsiders.”
For actress Samantha Smith, returning as Mary has been a treat. “There’s a lot to consider — being dead, now alive with a big gap in the middle,” she shared. “My sons are now older and taller than I am…. I’ve always loved Mary and to be able to experience her from a whole different perspective is incredibly fun for me.”

Other highlights from the panel:

* Season 12’s family theme will also be explored via Crowley and Rowena. “There’s a hint that my family dynamic may be returning in a slightly more expanded scale, so I’m looking forward to seeing how that turns out — because it never turns out well,” actor Mark Sheppard said. Ruth Connell, who plays Crowley’s mom, predicted their relationship will go “downhill fast.” As for what the power-hungry witch is after next season, Dabb shared, “She’s gone in a different direction… She’s taking a step back [and asking herself], ‘Is this something I really want to do?'” But of course, “she gets drawn back into” in the mayhem. Meanwhile, Crowley wants “revenge” against Lucifer (hey there, Rick Springfield!) for humiliating him. (The scene with Crowley licking the floor was improvised!)
* On the topic of how you follow up a season featuring God and The Darkness, EP Robert Singer said, “We can’t top all that, so we’re going to try to get back to basics a little bit, tell smaller stories. Some good old-fashioned horror stories.”
* “We find out more about the Men of Letters and their worldwide society,” Padalecki previewed. “We’ll learn more about what she wants for themselves and from Sam and Dean.” But as seen in the Season 11 cliffhanger, in which Lady Toni shot Sam, “They’re not off to a great start.”
* “Cas is back to a little bit Cas from Season 4,” Collins revealed. “He’s got much of his mojo, not all of it. I think his wings are still broken. He’s angry. He’s in a fighting spirit. He’s after Lucifer.”
* Sheriff Jody, Donna, Claire, Alex and Crowley’s son Gavin will all be back.
* When asked about the birthday photo he sent to Padalecki, of their kids as the next generation of hunters, Ackles said his daughter calls Padalecki’s sons not her friends, but “my boys,” so “we might not have a choice in the matter” regarding their offspring continuing “in the family business.”
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Pamela @nascargurly48

@FangasmSPN @SamSmithTweets Sam is gunna be on a WHOLE season of #supernatural!!! Let that sink in...
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Gish!Kam | SDCC!!!! @kamyb22
Dabb: Cas knows how important Mary is to Sam and Dean and will have a very specific reaction #SupernaturalSDCC

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"Lucifer is going to try out a few vessels." 1st vessel is a rock star. Role has been cast. RICK SPRINGFIELD! #Supernatural #SDCC2016
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Trailer ends with the message "Come Home." #chills #Supernatural #SDCC

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Rick Springfield is playing Lucifer's new vessel! #Supernatural @SDCC

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Jessica Mason•SDCC @fangirlingjess

How do we get bigger than God? Singer: we don't. Slow smaller stories this year. Good old fashioned horror. #SupernaturalSDCC
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Snippet of S12 - Mary throwing Dean down, Sam being tortured, Cas spewing blood. Lots of feels #WBSDCC #SupernaturalSDCC
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Jared Padalecki

SO bummed I have to be at this BORING PARTY at Comic-Con instead of shooting all night in mosquito-infested woods with @mishacollins. Speaking of which, a little bird just told me that gishwhes.com registration is being extended through comic con weekend!! So, u still have time get in on the fun and jointhehunt2016.com!"

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Supernatural: 6 Burning Questions for Season 12

Why was now the right time to play the God card?
After years of speculation, the drama finally confirmed that Chuck Shurley (Rob Benedict)—a prophet who had been writing Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean’s (Jensen Ackles) story—was indeed the Almighty himself. “It was really nice to get it confirmed,” Benedict says. “We’re not guessing anymore. You can make some serious choices, because we’re all on the same page.” Though the creative team had intended on Chuck being God for years, Season 11’s tale of “Amara being God’s sister [meant] we certainly had to pay it off,” executive producer Robert Singer explains. “It was almost a relief that we had finally done it.”
Ruth Connell as Rowena and Rob Benedict as Chuck Shurley

What do the British Men of Letters want?
We already knew about the American members of the Men of Letters—the secret organization that researched/tracked all things supernatural—but the season finale introduced a U.K. division, who haven’t allowed a supernatural-related death in their territory since 1965. One of their members, Lady Toni Bevell (Elizabeth Blackmore), made quite an entrance, showing up in the Winchesters’ Kansas bunker and shooting at Sam. Though his character was the target, Padalecki understands where she is coming from. “She really thinks of Sam and Dean as villains,” he says. “To her, they started the Apocalypse and nearly got God killed.”

Who will save Sam?
Castiel (Misha Collins), the Winchesters’ angel ally, will be “extremely motivated to get Sam back,” executive producer Andrew Dabb says. “He [does] things we know Cas is capable of but we haven’t seen him do in recent years.”

What does the return of the boys’ mother mean?
Mary Winchester’s (Samantha Smith) death in 1983 (as seen in Supernatural’s pilot episode) was a wound that haunted the brothers for years. Now that she has returned—a gift of thanks from Amara (Emily Swallow) for Dean’s help in ending her feud with God—Mary learns “these two kids [she left behind] have grown up into men who are hunters—something she tried to avoid,” Dabb says. “She’s kind of their mother in name only. [She’s] meeting her sons again, but they are not what she expected. In some ways, she is not what they expected.”

Where the hell is Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino)?
When Amara ejected Lucifer from Castiel’s body, the fallen angel went MIA. Since Castiel let Lucifer out of his cage (and into his vessel) in an attempt to fight the Darkness, he feels responsible for any damage that could come from the Devil’s newfound freedom. “Cas feels like it’s his mission to try to make that right,” Singer says. Crowley (Mark A. Sheppard) is also on Lucifer’s trail, but unlike the Winchesters and Castiel, he doesn’t merely want to stop him; “he wants payback,” for humiliating him in front of his former minions, Dabb says. “I think it’s very personal for Crowley, in a way a lot of stuff isn’t.”

What’s next for Rowena (Ruth Connell)?
The Scottish witch, who had brief alliances with both Lucifer and Amara this past season, may take her wicked ways down a notch now that she “has seen that being all-powerful maybe isn’t all it’s cracked up to be,” Singer says. “But one always has to be suspicious of Rowena.” —additional reporting by Ileane Rudolph
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Rumor:

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#Supernatural #SPNFamily #MammaMia possible title for #season12 episode @SuperWiki @TheJimMichaels
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DC TV Shows + The CW - Various Rumors

The CW:

TVD is ending after this season.
The network wants Friday to be a 'Horror Night'.
The network is looking to pair Supernatural with either a Constantine-led series or iZombie on Fridays.

By Fall 2017, the network wants a DC TV show in the 8pm slot every weekday.

Wait what? Isn't that called the "Death slot"? I mean, YAY! It would mean season 13 but still... Thoughts?
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These are excerpts from the TV Guide "Burning Questions" article. All credit goes to Marisa Roffman and Ileane Rudolph.

What do the British Men of Letters want?

The British Men of Letters haven't allowed a "Supernatural" related death in their territory since 1965. "Though his character is the target, Padalecki understands where she is coming from. 'She really thinks of Sam and Dean as villains," he says. "To her, they started the apocalypse and nearly got God killed."

Who will save Sam?

Castiel will be "extremely motivated to get Sam back," executive producer Andrew Dabb says. "He does things we know Cas is capable of but we haven't seen him do in recent years."

What does the return of the boys' mother mean?

Mary learns "these two kids [she left behind] have grown up into men who are hunters - something she tried to avoid," Dabb says. "She's kind of their mother in name only. She's meeting her sons again, but they are not what she expected in some ways, she is not what they expected."

Where the hell is Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino)?

"Cas feels like it's his mission to try and make that right," Singer says. Crowley is also on Lucifer's trail, but unlike the Winchesters and Castiel, he doesn't merely want to stop him, he wants payback for humilating him in front of his former minions," Dabb says. I think it's very personal for Crowley, in a way a lot of stuff isn't."

What's next for Rowena (Ruth Connell)?

The Scottish witch...may take her wicked ways down a notch now that she "has seen that being all-powerful isn't all it's cracked up to be," Singer says. "But one always has to be suspicious of Rowena."
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Some mild spoilers from the Nerdist. Misha Collins in turn.

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“Season 12 is actually going to feel like we’re getting back to the show’s roots,” Collins says. “It’s going to feel a lot like earlier seasons of the show, which I’m excited about. And the same really goes for my character in particular.”

“But it actually, as this season is unfolding, it feels like that is what’s happening,” Collins says. “Cas has got his mojo back. Finally. I’m so excited about that. I’m excited to see it unfold. I have a feeling that the fans won’t be disappointed.”

A badass, warrior Castiel? Yeah, that doesn’t sound disappointing at all. Bring on season 12!

Sounds good to me too. ;)
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Supernatural season 12 starts filming today. That means that we should be getting more specific season spoilers while we head towards the airing of the first episode. :D
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WFB Supernatural ‏@WinFamBusiness 2 hours ago Pittsburgh, PA

Jared says that season 12 will be more about getting into the minds of the boys. Jensen - "Yeah, ditto." #SPNPitt #pittcon
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SUPERNATURAL ~ SEASON 12

Local Production Company: Supernatural 5 Films Inc.

Director: Phil Sgriccia
Exec. Producer(s): Robert Singer, Andrew Dabb, Eugenie Ross-Leaming, Phil Sgriccia, Brad Buckner
Producer: Jim Michaels, Craig Matheson
PM: Craig Matheson
PC: Jason Fischer
LM: Russell Hamilton, Scott Harper

Production Address: 8085 Glenwood Drive, Burnaby, BC, V3N 5C8
Sched: Jul 12/16 - Apr 26/17
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Jim Michaels ‏@TheJimMichaels h13 hours ago

Always great when you are scouting locations for #Supernatural & you can grab the sweet taste of fresh blackberries!

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Jim Michaels ‏@TheJimMichaels 10 hours ago

#Supernatural Season 12 pin from Phil Sgriccia has arrived! #SPNFamily @cw_spn

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From TVLine

So much Supernatural news this week. Dare we ask for more? — Dee

Dare away! During Vlada Gelman’s recent chat with the “brothers,” Jensen Ackles said he plans to break his recent streak of directing an early-season episode, explaining, “I just decided to take the first part of the season easy. Twenty-three episodes [per season] is a long, long shoot, and I usually would direct the first episode that we would film… so it’s basically like sprinting the first several miles of a marathon, which doesn’t really work if you’re a good runner. You want to pace yourself, so I’m going to pace myself this year.”
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More about season 12 Jared and Jensen wishlists from TVLine.

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Dean may need to learn to share his BFF, because Padalecki would like “some nice Sam/Castiel scenes,” the actor tells TVLine. “I love Misha [Collins]. I get a lot of Sam/Dean scenes, and I love Jensen, but I love exploring the Sam/Castiel relationship,” too.

Ackles’ wish list is a throwback to the series’ early days — and a world Dean left behind far too quickly.
“Purgatory, I thought, was a really, really cool part of the story,” he shares. “That might be cool to maybe go revisit.”
“I’d also like to see more of a hunter network,” Ackles adds. “I’m a big fan of the original format of the show, the monster-of-the-week kind of thing. [But] I don’t know how we necessarily get back to that with everything that’s happened.”

In the meantime, Ackles is enjoying the “really cool” expansion of the Men of Letters mythology with the introduction of the London chapter in the Season 11 finale. “That’s certainly an avenue we can explore,” he says, “and I think we will.”
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Jared interview for TVLine!

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Dean and Sam’s long-deceased mother, Mary (played by Samantha Smith), made a surprise return in last month’s finale, thanks to Amara. While God’s sister meant to give Dean what he’s always wanted, the younger Winchester also hasn’t seen the woman who gave him life in a very long time. Should the opportunity present itself for another family reunion, does Sam need closure with his mom?

“Not as much as Dean does, because Sam was so young [when she died],” Padalecki tells TVLine. But he believes Sam “would like to get some answers” about his mother, about whom he only “knows a little bit,” courtesy of the show’s trip back in time to when a young Mary (portrayed by Amy Gumenick) was a hunter.

“I think a part of Sam is very curious,” Padalecki says. “He’s a thinker, he’s an intellect. Part of him wants to have some sort of closure with his father, with his mother.”

“Sam is one of these interesting people who feels the void, even if he didn’t ever know it,” he adds. “They say, ‘If you don’t know something, you don’t know what you’re going to miss.’ But I think Sam knows what he’s missing.”
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Jim Michaels @TheJimMichaels

@canonsoulmates @mngtrends There has never, repeat NEVER, been any talk that this would be our last season...So consider this rumor debunked
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I have one simple question... WHAT is going on? :o

Partly sunny ‏@stormcloude 1 hour ago
@megfitz89 Is Nancy Won going to be writing for the show this year? And where are @charmzies and Snyder?

Meghan Amanda ‏@megfitz89
She's not! Sadface -- BUT she will be killing it over on Frequency. Eric and Nicole are also working their magic elsewhere
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Meghan Amanda ‏@megfitz89

Lowkey big fan of all these humans. (Just don't tell them!) ?
BRING ON SEASON 12
#Supernatural #SPNFamily

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Andrew Dabb, Davy Perez, Nick Vaught, John Bring, Bobo Berens, J2, Singer, Meredith Glynn

I think we have all of them here. :)
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First spoiler scoop from TVLine

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When the hunter refused to acquiesce to her demands, she fired off a round that may or may not have hit Sam off-screen.

“She shot him,” star Jared Padalecki confirmed to TVLine Wednesday night at the Saturn Awards, where he and castmate Jensen Ackles were presenting an award to Supernatural creator Eric Kripke. “I don’t know where, but I know she shot him.”

“What else is new – Sam gets injured,” Padalecki added with a laugh. “At least I’m not getting tortured – yet.”

Amara thanked Dean by giving him what he’s always wanted — Mary, the mother he lost as a child. (BTW, if you thought/hoped Papa John Winchester was going to reappear during those final minutes, Ackles briefly shared your sentiment, “But I knew they couldn’t get Jeffrey Dean Morgan back.”)

“I’m anxious to see how that [surprise return] pans out,” said Ackles, adding that he and Padalecki are meeting with new showrunners Robert Singer and Andrew Dabb later this week. “[My reaction] was kind of like, ‘What’s going to happen now? How is this going to work out?'”

Padalecki was excited by the twist, as well. “I love [Mary’s portrayer] Samantha Smith. So I was like, ‘We get Sam back! That’s awesome!'” he enthused. “My reaction as a fan of the show was, ‘What a cool show to be a part of where we can do that and get away with it.’ [That] and I was just really stoked.”
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Supernatural season 12 premiere date released!

Thursday, October 13

8:00-9:00pm — DC’s Legends of Tomorrow (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm — Supernatural (Season Premiere)
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@TheJimMichaels curious is @JensenAckles going to be directing episode in s12 of #Supernatural?

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Not this season by his own choice.
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Vague spoilers about the start of season 12 from Misha Collins source: Bustle

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‘Supernatural’ Season 12 Spoilers From Misha Collins Will Set Fan Theories Into High Gear

Even though Collins appears to know nothing about Season 12, he did drop one piece of information that will surely interest fans. "I know one casting thing," the 41-year-old GISHWHES (The Greatest International Scavenger Hunt the World Has Ever Seen) creator admits. "I know one person who's been hired in Season 12, but I can't tell you.

"There was a point in which in an earlier draft — of the season finale — where that question was answered, but that didn't end up making it into the final cut." Clearly, that leaves the door open for Lucifer.
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You guys, there can be a bigger bad than the darkness. C'Thulu, while the darkness stopped because family, he would not because he is an insane monster God bent on destruction.
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Some random spoilers/Speculation from REDDIT:

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Supernatural’ Season 12 Air Date & Spoilers: Is Lucifer Still Alive? Mary’s Return Affects Sam And Dean?

For instance, fans are wondering whether Mary Winchester (Samantha Smith) is really alive or if Dean (Jensen Ackles) was simply dreaming. As seen in the season finale of "Supernatural," Mary suddenly appeared in her nightgown, which was the same as what she wore when she died in season 1.

Several fan theories on "Supernatural" Season 12 also emerged on Reddit where fans discuss the possibility of Dean knowing about Amara and God's existence despite their disappearance in the season finale. Fans are also wondering whether Lucifer is still alive after Amara killed him in the previous episodes.
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Why the Men of Letters Would Make Great Villains for 'Supernatural' Season 12

Why It's Better to Go Small

Ever since angels showed up in season 4, Supernatural has had to raise the stakes every season when it comes to its villains. By now the Winchesters have faced Lucifer, Leviathans from Purgatory, the Mother of All Monsters, evil angels, Abaddon and now Amara, God's sister. The problem is that there's nowhere to go but down.

The Darkness is literally all-powerful, present at the dawn of creation alongside her brother God. By definition she's stronger than any monster or demon or creature Sam and Dean have ever faced or will ever face. It would be silly for season 12 to try and top Amara, introducing yet another big, scary monster or demon trying to destroy the world. Nothing the writers could come up with would be scarier or stronger than Amara.

Instead, by introducing the Men of Letters as a principal antagonist, the show is going in the opposite direction. They aren't monsters and while they study the supernatural, they aren't a part of that world. They're just men, just humans. In 11 seasons, Sam and Dean have never really had to deal with a serious human threat unless you count Bela the thief or Gordon the vampire hunter. Instead of giving us another monster, the show is going in the opposite direction with a more personal threat.

The Winchesters Go Rogue

Perhaps the best part of the Men of Letters being the bad guys is that it allows Sam and Dean to become rogue agents. It's a classic story in which the organization they thought they knew and were a part of has turned against them, so they must find a way to save themselves against people who know all of their tricks.

That's also a new twist. For the most part, the Big Bads of Supernatural show up with their own evil plans, relatively unaware of the Winchesters. But as we saw in Lady Toni's basement, the Men of Letters have been observing Sam and Dean for a long time. They know exactly who they are and what they're capable of. And they're not trying to destroy the world, they're trying to stop the Winchesters. This time, it really is personal.

The Show Can Dive Into the Mythology

Sam and Dean first found the Men of Letters bunker in season 8 and it's been their home and the show's main base of operations for four seasons. We've gotten bits and pieces of the organization's history, mostly through time travel, but there's a lot left unexplained. The Men of Letters has always seemed like one of those pieces of the show the writers never fully explored and now they can. There's obviously a hierarchy in place with Lady Toni receiving those phone calls, so season 12 can really dive into what the Men of Letters is.


After 11 seasons of fighting monsters and stopping at least half a dozen apocalypses, Supernatural may have found a way to tell a different kind of story with the Men of Letters. If they're the major villains of season 12, which the finale certainly suggested would be the case, then it's a threat unlike any the Winchesters have faced. They're going up against an institution that knows all about them and which has no apparent interest in destroying the world.

I'm certain the show will continue to have horror elements with cases of the week and various monsters, but the Men of Letters allow the show to evolve into more of an action thriller. The idea of the show being more like a Mission: Impossible or Jason Bourne film gives Sam and Dean something completely different to deal with.
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Season 12 is well in the writing stages already!
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'Supernatural' Season 11 Finale Recap: 5 Burning Questions We Want Answered In Season 12

5. Where is Lucifer?
Amara zapped Lucifer out of Cas' body who was possessing him a long time. Where is he now?

4. Will Chuck or Amara be back?
In episode 20, Chuck revealed that he was God and it led to some very interesting conversations with the Winchesters and Metatron. We'd like Rob Benedict to be back in at least one episode in season 12.

3. What role does Toni Bevell play in season 12?
The season 11 finale ended with Toni Bevell — a member of the London Branch of the Men of Letters — announcing that she's going to apprehend Sam and Dean for all the damage they've caused over the years. However, it's unclear how large a role she plays in the upcoming season.

2. Is Dean and Sam's mother — Mary Winchester — back for good?
As a thank you to Dean for helping her reconcile with her brother, Amara offers him the thing he needs the most — his mother! Surprisingly, she's wearing the same nightgown the night she died in 1983.

Is she a ghost or a human? Is she back for good? Does she know Dean and Sam are her sons? So many questions!

1. Is Sam going to stay dead?
Ok, so obviously Sam will not stay dead, but Billie did promise the Winchesters in the beginning of season 11 that when a Winchester dies next, he will stay dead. How is Dean going to get past the Reaper and resurrect Sam?
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.@JensenAckles: next season is going to be interesting. The people who are in charge won't lead us astray #JIB7
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“SUPERNATURAL” The thrilling and terrifying journey of the Winchester brothers continues as SUPERNATURAL enters its twelfth season. Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) have spent their lives on the road,battling every kind of supernatural threat. Over the years, after countless bloody adventures, they have faced everything from the yellow-eyed demon that killed their mother to vampires,ghosts, shapeshifters, angels and fallen gods. In the show’s eleventh season, the Winchesters found themselves battling an apocalyptic force: the Darkness. Now,rallying help from their allies - both human and supernatural - Sam and Dean are about to go toe-to-toe with the most destructive enemy they've ever seen. The question is, will they win? And at what price? SUPERNATURAL is from Warner Bros. Television in association with Wonderland Sound and Vision, with executive producers Jeremy Carver (“Being Human”) and Phil Sgriccia, and executive consultant Robert Singer (“Midnight Caller”).
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Supernatural MOVES to thursdays!

The CW Fall Schedule: Supergirl Retains Monday Perch, Supernatural on Move, The Originals and iZombie MIA

THURSDAY
8 pm Legends of Tomorrow
9 pm Supernatural (new timeslot)

"On thursdays we are Teddy Bear doctors".
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Second new writer?

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My second writing gig: SUPERNATURAL

Davy Perez @davyperez

A native son of East Los Angeles, Creative Scorpio, Music Lover, Film Fanatic, Monster Hunter, Card Gamer, Story Teller, TV Watcher… Writer.

MY SECOND WRITING GIG: SUPERNATURAL
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New writer? (Needs to be confirmed)

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Red King Dreaming

He currently contributes issues to the Zenescope comic book series Grimm Tales of Terror and writes for MTV's Scream and CW's Supernatural.

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Playwright, spectacle junkie, @newplaynetwork standard bearer. Writer for #MTVScream and #Supernatural

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'Supernatural' Season 12: 5 Burning Questions We Want Answered At 2016 CW Upfronts

1. Will God show up in future "Supernatural" episodes?

In season 11, episode 20, we learned that God is Chuck. Several long-time fans had already suspected this, but having the show confirm it was wonderful.

Rob Benedict's Chuck is doing a fabulous job portraying the Almighty, but we'd like to know if he will continue to appear in future episodes.

2. What role does Elizabeth Blackmore's Lady Toni Bevell play in season 12?

As we reported earlier, "TVD" actress Elizabeth Blackmore had been cast weeks ago to play the mysterious role of Lady Toni Bevell. The CW didn't give any details about her character except that she will appear in seasons 11 and 12. So far, Blackmore hasn't made an appearance and we wonder how she helps (or doesn't help) the Winchesters in taking down Amara.

3. Will we ever get a "Supernatural" spin-off show?

"Supernatural" fans have been clamoring for a spin-off show for a long time. Will we get to see a show on hunters Bobby Singer and Rufus Turner before they died? Or will the network finally approve a female-driven "Supernatural" spin-off that shows Alex and Claire becoming hunters?

4. What potential guest-stars will we see in season 12?

Every season of "Supernatural" has had a bevy of diverse guest-stars. Guest appearances of Season 11 alone include Rob Benedict as Chuck, Jim Beaver as Bobby Singer, Steven William as Rufus Turner, Kim Rhodes as Sheriff Jody Mills and Mark Pellegrino as Lucifer.

5. Is Metatron dead?

In the recently aired episode 21, Metatron seemed to have died at the hands of Amara. Is he really gone or is there a possibility he will be back? Metatron was sort of growing on us!
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Supernatural Names New Showrunners as Jeremy Carver Moves to Frequency from TVLine
TVLine has learned that showrunner Jeremy Carver will step down at the conclusion of the current 11th season to focus on his new CW thriller Frequency, which earlier this week was ordered to series. He will be succeeded by the new co-showrunning team of Robert Singer and Andrew Dabb.
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First spoilers for season 12!

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From EW we are getting a new recurring character.

Elizabeth Blackmore, who is currently on The Vampire Diaries, is set to leave Mystic Falls for an appearance on Supernatural later this season, E! News has exclusively learned. And SPN fans should expect to see a lot more of Blackmore NEXT season.

Blackmore, who can also be seen on AMC's Turn, will be taking on the recurring role of Lady Toni Bevell, first appearing in an episode later this season, and will return for an unspecified number of episodes in season 12. A mysterious visitor from across the pond, Lady Toni Bevell will actually have a lot in common with Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles). Hm...what could those similarities be? Let the speculation commence!
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IMDb gets ready for season 12!

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Good news for today so as a celebration I will make this ready for the next year! CHEERS!

From EW.com

The CW handed out early renewals to 11 series, including The Flash, Arrow, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, The Vampire Diaries, The Originals, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Jane the Virgin, iZombie, Reign, Supernatural, and The 100, EW has learned.

AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME for Supernatural!

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