I had really low expectations going into “The Vessel,” mostly because I wasn’t sure what to expect. I had some hope though because of the writer. Robert Berens constantly knows how to surprise us and pull us into a story, even when the brakes are on the main story because it’s still too early in the season. He didn’t disappoint and now I have a new episode to add to my season eleven favorites.
I love how this episode didn’t waste any time getting started. Anything that starts off with the death of a Nazi works for me, but everything after that kicked off with Sam in full on research mode on a caffeine bender. This is the Sam I love to see, digging into the Men of Letters archives and geeking out over all the information at his disposal. The boy is so good at putting the pieces together, and this was quite a story. It also harkens back to one of my all time favorite episodes, “Everybody Hates Hilter.” When Ben Edlund opened up that world, he left open many amazing possibilities and I’m thrilled to see Berens tap into that.
There’s two big aspects to this story. First, there’s the main story itself. Berens cleverly took that piece of continuity from “Everybody Hates Hilter,” blended it with Raiders of the Lost Ark mythos, pulled some inspiration from the German film Das Boot, then went for a little femme fatale remembering that women were an integral part of the war effort (recently depicted in “Marvel’s Agent Carter”). When going that bold, finding a way to adapt all that to the “Supernatural” universe can be tricky, but Berens found a way and the end result is fantastic.
Storytelling is all about heart and there was plenty in the submarine story. Characters and situations should be relatable, even if they are totally foreign. We were like Dean, sucked into these characters and their situation, even though we knew they were soon to meet their end. We admired their spirit, their courage, their human fallacies like Petey wanting to know how long the war would continue for his friends and loved ones, the ones he would be leaving behind. Delphine was the ideal spy and one of the strongest guest characters we’ve had in a while. Her story of sacrifice was a great enhancement to the Men of Letters legacy. It also proved how influential the MOL were in the matters of the “underworld” back then. It also makes me wonder how no one ever missed them past 1958.
The second aspect is all the hidden nuggets and clues that were given to us regarding the mytharc. It was finally a sign of hope in what has been a dastardly situation. There are ways to channel the power of God. Unfortunately, we got the cartoonish form of Lucifer, but his role is important in this scheme. I’m just not sure we see it yet. The spell that Sam found clearly showed that in this fight, they probably do need the power of an archangel. Yes, he’s temperamental and doesn’t play nice with others, but there’s no doubt the power will be helpful. That’s likely why Castiel believes Lucifer is needed.
Oh, but we were left with questions. What was the symbol on Delphine? What sort of spell binds her blood and heart? What did it mean? Was it some sort of protection against evil? Can it be found in the MOL archives? We knew that the Men of Letters bunker could be warded from such things but a person? That’s kind of a game changer is Sam and Dean should ever choose to adopt something like that. Delphine’s mark didn’t have angels in mind but it did keep Lucifer out, so I doubt Sam and Dean would ever use that specific one. However though, Lucifer now knows the spell to override any kind of warding, so that makes the bunker less safer than it was. Ouch, my head hurts with all the twists.
Then there’s the Hand of God itself. That was a rather brilliant reveal. So there are objects out there that allow people to absorb the power of God? There’s more of them out there? Does this mean that the remainder of the season will end up being a Raiders of the Lost Ark type adventure? I’m all for Sam and Dean digging more into that vast archive at their disposal for answers. Some archeological digs sound good too (especially if it gets too hot and they'll need to go shirtless).

The Saga of Dean Winchester
Dean may have been feeling blue at the end, but this episode did open up some hints that Dean plays a very vital part in defeating the Darkness. He’s the key to everything. The last shot of a somber Dean, sitting by the water alone holding the Hand of God, really got to me. That’s a powerful visual and some awesome foreshadowing.
So far season 11 could be subtitled, “The season where Sam Winchester got his groove back,” but watching “The Vessel” really sparked my hope that Dean’s turn is next. Poor Dean, who’s clearly been blindsided by the whole Amara thing, but something else is clearly happening too. He’s having a crisis of confidence. Part of it is because this whole experience is pushing him out of his comfort zone. He can’t deal with these issues with guns blazing like he normally does. It was best evident when on that submarine. Old Dean would have been defiant and determined to save those people. Screw history. Current Dean though is older, wiser, and knows better. He can’t mess with the past. That truth though didn’t leave the situation easier for him. If anything, it made all those feelings of helplessness worse. A lot of that helplessness was reflected in that final scene.
I’m sure as Dean watched on the sideline and saw heroes with heart in action, he had to be thinking that this is what it would be like with Amara. How Sam and Castiel would have to take on that fight and he could do nothing about it. Now that Castiel has chosen to fight by being possessed by Lucifer, that doesn’t help Dean’s angst about the whole situation either. He still clings onto hope that Castiel will come back willingly, even though we saw otherwise in his talk with Sam. You have to wonder, what is Dean going to do? How will he get out of this latest funk? How will he save Cass?
While Dean is currently seeing the connection to Amara as a curse, Lucifer said that the connection was vital in defeating Amara. I’m starting to see things Lucifer’s way. In the end, it will be Dean that defeats her, or perhaps just tames her. I wondered what would happen if the Hand of God suddenly started to work for Dean when Amara was near. Would Dean be destroyed? Is he truly a mortal with that connection? As Delphine warned, a mortal cannot absorb that power and will be destroyed. Let me throw this out there though, is Dean Winchester the exception? Remember when he killed the Whore of Babylon? There’s something different about Dean. Plus, with his connection to Amara, doesn’t that kind of make him immortal? If anything, absorbing God’s power levels the playing field between him and Amara where he can keep her in line.
Can Dean live with a level playing field though? He’s been so black and white, kill or be killed, so could he live reasonably well with this bond that will never go away? I don’t think so. I think that he’s already in self sacrificial mode, evidenced by him going alone on the submarine and refusing to let Sam go. He knows he can’t kill Amara, but he also knows he can’t live with her either. All that is reflected on his face in that closing shot. The catch 22 from which he cannot win. No doubt Delphine’s sacrifice is burning in his mind, and he’s ready to do the same, but he’s not convinced he can. How Dean moves forward from this point is a setup of some great possibilities.
The Really Strange Saga of Lustiel/Cassifer

This whole Lucifer story is where my confidence in the mytharc wanes. I can’t get out of my head his confession that he hadn’t really thought things out. That disappointed me, even though I always suspected his motive was to be sprung from the cage and nothing more. What if the Hand of God had worked for Lucifer? Did he believe that by killing Dean he’d kill Amara or was he not thinking that far? How else could he defeat her? If he had gotten that power, would that make him more powerful than Amara? I don’t think so, because it’s God’s power and she has the same power. Despite the fact that he really has no clue how to defeat her, Castiel still believes he’s useful.
It’s clear there are situations where his power is needed. They wouldn’t have been able to go back in time without him. But Lucifer is a loose cannon. He’s easily bored, impatient, and rather insistent that things are done his way. That arrogance has likely been the cause of his downfall ever since he was banished to Hell. A few thousand years hasn’t seemed to change him. Other than being the token jerk and giving Misha Collins something to do, why is Lucifer part of this? Keep in mind though, this isn't a criticism of Misha's performance. I'm quite impressed with how well he's mimicking Lucifer's (aka Mark Pellegrino's) mannerisms. It's just the writing of Lucifer himself.
So far, I see no value with Lucifer and now whatever nemesis he once was been greatly diminished. Sam has overcome his fear of Lucifer. Sam knows his weaknesses, and Sam saw that Castiel is capable of taking control with a soul boost. The way I see it, Sam will probably handle the Lucifer problem, leaving Dean to handle Amara. The question raised at the end was a good one though, how do they get Castiel back from this, especially when he doesn’t want to be saved? I don’t think Sam is going to risk another soul touching (hasn’t it been through enough?). Is it possible they’ll eventually have to accept the sacrifice of their friend for the greater good? I’d like to think they would, if anything because after eleven seasons they should be learning from past mistakes. Still, it’s super hard for these guys to let go and I don’t see them doing that without a fight and all options considered.
The Red Headed Monster
This week’s little rant has nothing to do with Mr. Berens script or the amazing story he laid out that gave everyone involved in the production a chance to shine (everyone brought their A game). Well, it does a little, but Berens is only following a very bad choice in continuity. One that in my mind has damaged the series and really, really needs to end, now.
I accept that when Mark Sheppard became a regular, they needed to give him a story. Crowley is a character where they had endless possibilities. Remember when he first came around? He was brilliantly evil, hid in the shadows and would appear right at the time of opportunity. I wasn’t interested in what was going on in Crowley’s day to day world. I loved the mystery and enigma behind him. This whole idea of Crowley sitting on a throne in a hideout somewhere on earth or in Hell, dealing constantly with hapless buffoons, it has really diminished this show to campy levels and ruined what has truly been a great character.

Remember when this show used to be cool? Remember when there were boundaries for poor taste? There is no way Eric Kripke would even entertain such a concept, let alone let it go this long. I recall once that Kripke said he wouldn’t do scenes in Hell, because his vision of Hell was too expensive. Remember when demons were like Meg? They didn’t dress up in suits and talk about soul numbers. They practiced dark arts and engaged in pagan rituals. They weren’t dumb and very scary.
I’ve eluded to this before, but watching the recent reboot of "The X-Files" has reminded me of some things. Tone is everything. I’m not saying that the return of "The X-Files" has been perfect, or that the story lines have been setting the world on fire, but they have in their strange simplicity been working. It feels like the show I once knew. The one thing the reboot has done is the show still remembers what they were. It knows its identity, even when Mulder and Scully are spending time questioning their purpose in this world. It put the focus back on Mulder and Scully, the true heart of the show. They’re each going through examinations of faith while coolly accepting the crazy and the possibilities around them. They aren’t dealing with cardboard demons with a bored leader in a fake Hell lair. They’re chasing real monsters in creepy situations, outright terrifying at times. Sure, every once in a while something is thrown off kilter, like a very strange (and totally awesome) mushroom trip, but it’s those things that prevents a story from being predictable.
Honestly, the Hell headquarters scenes have gotten so painful, I liken them to a poor quality Disney channel production. All that’s missing is a laugh track. Please, please writers, go back to the roots of this show and remember how a story can be told through solid pacing and tone, not cheap and time wasting gimmicks. Go back to seasons one and two. Heck, even go to five and six and remember what kind of characters Castiel and Crowley were. It really hurts to see how they’ve been diminished to caricatures.
Overall grade, an A-. It was only knocked down a peg because I’ve had enough of these painful Hell scenes. I was pleased to see Crowley get a comeuppance, but it’s still way too campy for me. Let’s stick to the straight, compelling drama that works.
Comments
- I also think the hell scenes are a joke and hurts the show. Demons need to go back to what they were.
- I don't like Cassifer: for me he looks more like Hallucifer and not Lucifer. He is not scary, Lucifer wants to destroy the world, if they let the cat out of the cage, let him play his role. Please don't let Sam and Dean start to work with Lucifer against the darkness.
- I don't want to go back to depressed Dean he is not the less of them all.
- the worse is the "true vessel" mess. So Lucifer doesn't need Sam anymore ? No . Sam being prepare to be the only true vessel is the base of the show. This sentence destroyed the first five season and I can't accept it. Jimmy's body contening both Lucifer and Castiel, even if rebuilt, shouldn't be able to resist long. Otherwise why would Lucifer and Azekiel go to all this troubles to find THE vessel, Lucifer could have just built his own magical vessel. Or maybe we will learn Jimmy Novack is the Adam of the Campbell family, the lost half brother of Mary.
And where does it leave Sam storyline ? I am sure Dean will be the one killing the darkness too, he won't be the witness, Sam will be (again like in the two previous seasons). Oh I am very happy that we got our Sammy back, and so far season 11 has been good to give a storyline to all, but it seems to me that in this second part of the season, Sam is starting to be put aside again.
This episode has been a real let down for me, I really don't like when they touch canon.
Will we learn more about the sigil? Would it work against Amara? And what of the new spell Sam found. Could it be used in other ways? A lot of interesting possibilities were hinted at in this episode. Maybe.
Show really outdid themselves with the casting this time. The submariners, the German commander, Delphine, all of them were so believable and personable. You really did find yourself caring about them, knowing the sad fate about to unfold. No one was over the top or cliche. It was like a mini movie. Great job.
I have never been a fan of the corporate take for Heaven or Hell. Wasn't a fan of Naomi or the fallen angels either. I understand why they present it that way but they could dial it down a bit. We get it. There are ass kissing sychophants in Hell. Must we be exposed to the same everytime? I mean the angels and demons have worn suits for awhile - think Zachariah and his goons or Crowley and his - but for some reason it worked. Seeing Heaven or Hell run just like any corporation on Earth? It kind of made it boring.
If they did this to Sam & Dean -- and in some form they have not so brutally but we havn't till now been happy with Sam's pov. I'm sure the Fandom Family would scream very loud. But out there in web land alot of Misha fans are loving Cas/Lucy Each to their own. I'm just disappointed ---- for every step forward they seem to take a step back.
I'm absolutely loving S11 there is so much to look forward to and discuss. loved this episode Love having my smart/caring/lo ving Sam back. My strong /confused Dean back As you said he is so Black & white -- see evil kill it have a burger and beer some good sex and move on. Poor sweetie throw a spanner in the works like something as confusing and emotional like Amara and he falls in a heap His not good in that department except for his love for his brother. Well thats black & white for Dean LOL He loves Sam simple fact.
I have always enjoyed shows with good supporting characters and feel a good guest actor can make or break, not only a scene, but the episode as well.
I liked Castiel/Lucifer.
The crew on the sub was awesome and those scenes were great. I really felt for them when they were dead in the water and the ship was directly over head and then....'splashes'.
And Sam. This Sam. I want this Sam. Let me keep this Sam.
I'm confident Dean will shake the doldrums off and forge ever forward........
What I didn't care for was 'doggie Crowley". Just.......no. I prefer Crowley as a 'frenemy'.
Cheers to the rest of the season!
But saying that, I would like Sam to be the one to defeat Lucifer, you are right. He should be allowed to be the one to make his tormentor pay. I wish they had allowed Sam to be human for a bit and be angry about what Cas did, and to vent a little bit of what it must have been like to find out that the person he'd been working with so closely in the bunker was the entity who tortured him for so long and then to have his soul violated again. Just a sentence would have been nice.
I feel for Dean, which hasn't happened in a while, and I'm anxious to see if this will be an opportunity for character growth or if he will do something rash because he feels helpless, which given his track record, is the more likely scenario. I vote for character growth.
Castiel in truth is not a character I have ever had feelings one way or another for but what he did was just too stupid to imagine and to easily done. When I think of the treatment Sam got for releasing Lucifer in the first place this current incarnation is harder to swallow.
The purge was wrongly done because we only got Dean's point of view, how depressed he was feeling and blam, Sam adds on it. How dare he. They could have shown him sleepless or dreaming of him killing Kevin, doing stuff without his consent to explain why he was angry. His words were also very harsh towards Dean and thanks to Jared we at least got a "I lied" to repair it. It was a mess. The show also lost a lot a viewers following this episode.
I said earlier that I have the feeling that we are going back to Sam being put on the side because we are losing his POV. How does he feel to have been locked in the cage a few hours with Lucifer ? Now he knows Lucifer is back and almost died to his hands, how does he feel ? During the last scene, it was about Dean, okay, I liked it but couldn't we get a piece of Sam's mind too.
It could be addressed in the next episode but I am pessimist here, seems to me it is a Dean episode.
Anyway my thought on where this is going is that Dean is still linked to a 'Mark' currently in the form of Amara, so it looks like with a strong enough boost of power and by Dean dying the darkness/Amara might be defeated. Lucifer is a red-herring whose main role in all this is to invalidate the canon of seasons 1-5. And possibly to have some Deus ex machina information to get them to this conclusion.
Such cruelty to leave that giant tease dangling in the air!:o PLEASE let your post be up when I get home from work! That gives you until 6 PM east coast time. But feel free to go a teeny bit past that deadline if it means we'll get more juicy details.
For Casifer, I'm okay with the broad picture. Cas needs to get HIS groove back too. I think we'll take care of Sam & Dean this year but Cas is not yet "fixed". But I'm actually okay with his instincts that Lucifer is needed. Perhaps Cas believed he could wrestle with Lucifer enough that he could win out when Amara was defeated. IDK. Maybe he knows himself well enough to know that once Lucifer goes after Sam & Dean, he will be sufficiently empowered to control the beast. Or maybe it's just a complete leap of faith. Maybe he thinks that Lucifer is required and he has faith Sam & Dean will defeat Lucifer again. I'm fairly certain Cas thinks he's expendable. Regardless, I'm waiting for this to play out and like that Lucifer's true, petulant nature is being demonstrated.
I also get being disappointed in the throne-room buffoonery. I'm personally theorizing that the lack of REAL deadly demons is because Crowley has been controlling exactly who gets topside. He's only letting out minion-class demons and keeping all the deadly players in Hell. Because while Crowley is scrappy and has the power of the King, he's just not likely to withstand a unified assault from the truly vicious. Also, I think He'll lost out in the pre-Apocalypse against the Angels and many of the "worthy" demons were killed. I'm hoping after Sam & Dean get their groove back, both Cas and Crowley get theirs (S12).
In short, excellent review. I think you are spot-on with the boys but I have more hope for Cas & Crowley.
My main take-away from the ep was how much I love seeing Nazi's and the Thule, and how we need the Judah Initiative and Aaron Bass and his Golem back! Like the Men of Letters, when Ben Edlund introduced those characters in Everybody Hates Hitler, the story possibilities exploded. It's why Supernatural could go for seasons to come. I love the idea of putting Sam and Dean in new perils, with worthy foes and seeing how they persevere. To me that is the heart of the show and why it has survived this long in the fickle TV landscape. Two brothers facing the unimaginable and somehow finding a way to win.
I'm clinging to the hope that Berens would not introduce so much retcon. I thought he was the overall story editor for the show (please correct me if I'm wrong) in a addition to being a writer. I always assumed that he was the writer most interested in preserving and building on existing canon. I'm hoping we get logical explanations as the season unfolds.
There are editors and showrunners and other producers that go over and approve the scripts. Robert Berens has to go through the same wringer as everyone else. Opinions vary but it was a fantastic script, expertly directed and produced. At least IMHO.
As for rejecting an angel, I always thought that Sam could do it because he didn't really say "yes" to Gadreel, it was a trick. When he learned the truth, he just had to say no. But apart this case, once the vessel accepted, he can't reject the angel anymore. In the rapture, we clearly see that if he could have changed his mind, Jimmy would have rejected Castiel long before. It's just how I see things. But I am sure the show will play as it seems with the story and I bet Castiel will be able to take control often over a powerful archangel.
The show is not always right in what it does regardless of how it is spun.
As far as Sam rejecting Gadreel whether by trick or not Sam invited the angel in. As far as we know Sam is the only character to have ejected an angel (and Andrew Dabb wrote that episode) Robert Berens wrote his episode based on existing canon. How he was able to reject Gadreel I suppose could be debated long after the show ends. I guess it is just how the viewer personally interprets different story lines past and current. I don't have an issue with adding to the lore but I know some do.
Oh, and I think Dabb is the story editor or Carver. Don't know for sure. But it is not Berens.
Anyway, that is my take. Season 5 is the past and nothing that happens five years later doesn't diminish it as a lot of things and new stuff have born and appeared to the story. Situations change too. I mean I can explain how I see it and I see no issues on the storyline, but it doesn't mean people see things the same way. But the proof is there. So maybe this helped or maybe it didn't, the choice is yours. Only things that bothered me in this episode was Crowley's torture really. Or well, it made me uncomfortable.
- Lilah
I'm certainly not trying to create a competition between Sam and Cas as to who is the better vessel for Luci. If I came across that way, then I apologize. I'm just trying to understand the current storyline.
I know that Andrew Dabb is the head writer, and Carver is the showrunner, but I thought I'd seen somewhere that Berens was the story editor. Which is why is was surprised by what I perceive to be so much retcon in this script. I could be wrong, apologies if I am. I'm sure everyone involved in the writing and production of the show collaborates with each other and they have a common vision for the plot and how the story is told. I didn't mean to minimize anyone's contribution to the show. I'm just a bit confused regarding Kripke's previously established canon is all. This is the first time the show has really dealt with the one true vessel storyline since the Kripke era, so naturally that's my starting point. Like others, I am creating my own head canon around this storyline because the show hasn't really explained why Luci now wants Sammy dead when Sam was born to be Luci's meat suit, why Cas can now be a vessel for an arc angel, etc. The fact that so many of us have our own ideas and head canon around this topic only further illustrates the need for further clarification from the writers. Sam being Luci's ONLY legitimate vessel was the basis of the show for the first 5 years. There should not be any amgbiguities around this topic.
I'll bite my tongue now and wait to see how all these stories unfold.
- Lilah
Great review, as always. I'm going to try to answer some of your questions. Mostly, about getting into Dean's head and where he goes with the Amara-stuff. I'll be honest, it's your reviews that made me consider his character from that perspective. I know that's where his season arc is, but I've been so pissed at Castiel for the last four weeks, that I haven't really given God's sister much thought.
I think you're right about where Dean is with Amara, at least at the beginning of the episode. He knows she has to die, and he knows it's not going to be him that beats her, so he's going to do all the dangerous missions- everything that has to be done to make sure she can be killed. Because, at the end of the day, it'll be Sam and Cass who have to pull the trigger. Also, Dean has always taken the do-the-semi-sui cidal-thing-to- save-the-world philosophy. It's a side-effect of the dangerous combination of heroism and self-loathing that is a corner stone of his personality.
As far as the Hand of God stuff goes, well maybe that's solution. Because, even if he can't beat Amara, maybe he can just hold it. If that's all he has to do. He's looking at Delphine and he's watching the power of God consume her as she uses it to destroy her enemies, and he's thinking, maybe that will be enough.
I think that you might be wrong that Dean may be protected from God's power. Dean was able to slay the Whore of Babylon because, in that moment, he was a servant of Heaven. In fact, it was that act that made Sam realize Dean was going to say yes to Michael. Amara's connection with Dean makes her his bodyguard; it doesn't make him immortal. If the Hand of God can kill Amara, it can kill Dean. However, if a mortal can't absorb the power of God, maybe an angel can; maybe Crowley can.
On the Lucifer/Cass stuff, respectfully, I think you're watching the show the wrong way. Often when I'm watching a TV showing, I'm watching on two fronts: I'm watching what is happening on screen, but I'm also trying to figure out why certain things are happening on screen. Why did the writers decide to do it this way? What does that set up down the road? There are some shows- the Vampire Diaries comes to mind- where I can't help but watch the puppeteers as closely as I watch the puppets, because too often what happens on screen is the product of the writers' desires, and not the characters. So, I think, at least for this episode, that you paid a lot more attention to the strings than the story. You said yourself that you always suspected that Lucifer's motivations were simply to escape the cage, yet you're upset- from a story-telling perspective- that there was no grand plan. That's ok, but I think, from a purely character perspective, Lucifer's actions make sense. He sees that there's is an opportunity to free himself from the cage, and he takes it. After he's topside, he tries to figure out what to do, and recognizing that Amara is a threat to his own existence, he chooses to defeat her. Sam said at the beginning of the episode (and you said it later in your review) that Lucifer is one of the few beings old enough and strong enough to defeat Amara. That's why Cass let him out.
Sam still fears Lucifer. You just have to look at his face when he realizes who's been walking around in Cass's body. He may understand him better, but the angel tortured him for almost two hundred years. He's terrified.
As far as how to save Cass, Dean is of the mindset that the angel will be saved, because he has to be saved, whether Cass likes it or not. Sam is the more pragmatic one and recognizes the limit of Dean's strategy, which is primarily based on stubbornness and recklessness. What I'm interested in is the lengths the Winchesters will go to do it. Because of the way their story has been written, the only person Sam and Dean have ever gone to the ends of the Earth to rescue (besides each other) was their father. There's no real precedence for them going that far for someone who's last name wasn't "Winchester". Even the rescue of Bobby's soul was attempted partially because it was required to close the gates of Hell. And after all, they never did save Adam.