I agree with E. As much as I like Ruth, she is adorable, I just don't care what Rowena's end game is. Like Samandean I kind of liked her at the end of S10 for a few episodes. But to be honest I am always a little disappointed when I know she is going to be in an episode. I don't necessarily have to know what a character's end game is to like them. Spnlit, I find her petty and annoying too. "She ain't done nothing" true Jen, if she had been more evil and less silly I think I would like her better. Maybe they were trying to make her like Crowley but she can't pull off that snarky stuff like Mark S can. I can't believe I am saying this but I even like Metatron better.