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Supernatural 12x16 Inside "Ladies Drink Free" (HD) Season 12 Episode 16 Inside sneak peek revealed that this episode has one element that goes forward to season 13!



What could it be? :o
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Jensen is directing in season 13 from SeaCon!
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Some spoilers for s13!
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Season 13 announced January 8, 2017!

Season 13, here we come!!! Thanks to all those who have kept us going this long...what a life changing ride it has been. #SPNFamily forever! — Jensen Ackles (@JensenAckles) January 8, 2017
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Jensen hinted at AHBLCon 2017 that something "sort of purgatory-esque" is coming.
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Supernatural Wiki‏ @SuperWiki May 16
In honour of our amazing writers returning to work on SPN Season13 today, I created our first S13 episode page! Season 13 episode 1
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CW Announces Fall 2017 Schedule at the Up fronts.

MONDAY
8 pm Supergirl
9 pm VALOR

TUESDAY
8 pm The Flash
9 pm DC’s Legends of Tomorrow

WEDNESDAY
8 pm Riverdale (new time slot)
9 pm DYNASTY

THURSDAY
8 pm Supernatural
9 pm Arrow (new time slot)

FRIDAY
8 pm Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (new time slot)
9 pm Jane the Virgin (new time slot)
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SUPERNATURAL Will Do an Animated SCOOBY DOO Episode in Season 13 from TheTVAddict.

Michael Schneider‏ @franklinavenue 24 minutes ago
#Supernatural will be doing an animated #ScoobyDoo episode next season. @TheCW
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Hello Supernatural fans! First time posting here. I live in Los Angeles and am a GIANT "Supernatural" fan. I actually work in animation as an animation checker and just found out that I am going to get to work on this crossover episode for Warner Bros! To say I am beyond excited is an understatement. I can't say much, but the show is in full production and my part of the animation process will be starting next week. Can't wait to work on this episode!!
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Yeah, sorry, no spoilers allowed! Just know it's going to be AMAZING!!
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Sara• ACKLES SUPPORT‏ @JensenAcklesGod 11 minutes ago

Jared said 13x16 is the Scooby Doo one AND MISHA IS IN THE EPISODE AND JENSEN WAS LIKE "WTF SPOILER"
#jib8 #jibcon
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet They are pretty reliable with spoilers, but not 100%

  • There will be an Animated SCOOBY DOO crossover episode. No I’m not making this up. (x) It will be written by Jeremy Adams and Jim Krieg. Jared, Jensen AND MISHA have already recorded their voice parts. This will be episode 16. (x)
  • Here’s what we knew about Mark Sheppard and Misha in Season 13 as of May 19. On May 20, Jared lets slip that Misha is going to be int eh scooby Doo episode so we WILL GET MISHA/CAS Back. Will update more as more information becomes available re; Mark, Ruth.
  • The Nephilim - Jack - is played by Alexander Calvert.
  • Kim and Briana mentioned at Asylum 18 that something was in the works for Season 13, involving them. This was repeated at JIB con by Briana and she mentioned it would be “All four of us” and it might be Next year so, this could be in 2018. (x)
  • Richard Speight Jr. is once again directing 2 episodes.
  • Prep begins June 26. Now, I’m not sure if that means shooting starts the 10th or the 17th, but we’ll know by mid-June.
  • Jensen is NOT directing. It was the plan but he had to pull out because of the brewery opening. :(
  • Something for season 13 was already shot during the shooting of episode 22!
  • The writers returned to start work on the season on May 15.
  • The writing staff is unchanged from season 12: Andrew Dabb and Robert Singer are showrunners, writers: Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming, Robert Berens, Meredith Glynn, Steve Yockey, Davy Perez, John Bring (writers assistant, occasional writer).
  • Should be 23 episodes.

If previous years are an indicator, Season 13 should premier on October 12. The day and timeslot - Thursday at 8pm, remains the same as the second half of season 12.
Supernatural was renewed for season 13 on January 8, 2017.
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Small tidbit from Jared's panel from JibCon8.
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Alexander Calvert will be playing the Nephilim "Jack" next season.
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Crowley seems to be TRULY dead. He will not appear on creation cons in 2018.

Mark Sheppard‏ @Mark_Sheppard 4 hours ago
So to all my #spnfamily everywhere... my crew and my fellow storytellers... thanks for the ride.… https://www.instagram.com/p/BUdUqF2lrZq/

Mark Sheppard‏ @Mark_Sheppard 1 hour ago
I will be appearing at plenty of conventions in 2018, just not creation ones.
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 9

8:00-9:00pm SUPERGIRL (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm VALOR (Series Premiere)

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10

8:00-9:00pm THE FLASH (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm DC’S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW (Season Premiere)

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11

8:00-9:00pm RIVERDALE (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm DYNASTY (Series Premiere)

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12

8:00-9:00pm SUPERNATURAL (Season Premiere)

9:00-10:00pm ARROW (Season Premiere)

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 13

8:00-9:00pm CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm JANE THE VIRGIN (Season Premiere)
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Season 13 teaser...

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From TV Line

Question: I’m fully aware it’s only June, but that’s not going to stop me from asking for a little fall preview on Supernatural. —Sam

Ausiello: Last month’s Supernatural finale definitely set the stage for an explosive Season 13, but you might want to rewatch an earlier episode for some clues about what’s in store for the Winchesters & Co. As you may recall, in the producers’ preview for Season 12’s “Ladies Drink Free,” executive producer Robert Singer revealed that the installment “very subtly tees up something that we’re going to revisit next [season].” So of course, we asked EP Andrew Dabb to elaborate. “That’s something we’re probably more comfortable talking about around Comic-Con,” he responded. “We have some really interesting things in the works.”
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Mark Pellegrino gets deep on Lucifer, ‘Supernatural,’ American Capitalist Party from movietvtechgeeks

In your opinion, what is the first thing Luci will do in Bizarro world – other than throw a tantrum?

Yeah – I mean, he’s stuck there with Mary, the Winchesters’ mom; so it’s a very interesting question. In this new, alternative universe seems to be sort of third base in Lucifer’s apocalyptic vision, right, so instead of having to go through any of the previous steps he’s got it right there. I think his first order of business is to revenge himself on the Winchesters. His primary goal is to hook up with his son and join forces with his son. Even though he’s been sort of handed the gift of an apocalyptic world where he can probably immediately take charge, he may be conceited enough to toss that option out the door and go for I want to remake this process from base 1 to base 2 to base 3 and then home plate in my own way and not be handed this gift. I think it’s taken care of Mary, use her as a hostage to get the Winchesters to open up that portal and join forces with his son.

Are there any hints you can give us about the fate of Cas, Crowley or Rowena?

You know, I can’t … and it’s not like I know. I am very interested in seeing where Andrew is going to take the next season. I can’t believe anybody’s dead, but they are. I’d like to see how they deal with the characters. I mean in my mind, Crowley is too smart a CEO not to have thought of every contingency there is out there, that’s the kind of guy he’s demonstrated himself to be. Rowena, I mean, he’s a chip off Rowena’s block. She has the same kind of wiliness and craftiness about her and I can’t imagine a witch has survived hundreds of years, gotten to the position that she’s gotten, without being extremely insightful about the way events can go. I can’t believe that she’s just a burned heap of red sequined dress in a classy hotel room. Cas especially, I mean – the one element in this whole formula that changes everything is this alternative universe. Who knows what kind of parallel elements are there besides Bobby? Is Jimmy in that universe? I don’t know. Is Rowena, in a different way? Is Fergus there? I don’t know. Anything goes. We’re in no man’s land – it’s unpredictable, that’s what I love about it.

Quite a few of my friends and I, we think that quite possibly the Castiel that actually sacrificed himself and Lucifer killed, wasn’t the Cas from the main reality, but is from the alternative reality.

How are you getting that?

The exchanges that he had with the boys and with Kelly, mostly … Before he went to the alter reality he was very much hands-on with regards to Lucifer’s child. I’ve taken dula classes, I’m going to deliver this baby, that sort of thing – afterward, he’s like standing at the door, kind of watching everything … there is one conversation that we never see the entirety of – it basically was, “Remember paradise,” or something like that … so it’s definitely a possibility.

Hmm. Wow. That’s interesting. I don’t know, I didn’t get that from anything, but you guys are awful creative and is this now public? I mean, have you guys theorized this stuff out loud?

Yes, there’s more than one of us, actually … there’s a lot of ideas, rationalizations … I don’t know if you follow anyone who was at JIBcon this last weekend …

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The thing with the nephilim, Jack, the other idea is that Jack actually comes upon the little video that Kelly makes for her son, who says well, you have an angel watching over you … and he finds Castiel dead and says, well, he’s supposed to taking care of me then I suppose I should revive him …

This is possible too. This is my greatest fear as Lucifer, is that the nephilim has an alliance, a real love for Cas, as opposed to his real father. It would sort of fit into that orphan template. One of the things I really love about Supernatural, I wrote in a forward to a book coming out about it, is that everybody’s an orphan; they’re not just family by blood, they are family by choice, by the values that you love. It would be quite a statement for the nephilim to reject his biological father in favor of Castiel, his spiritual father. It certainly speaks to what we consider fatherhood and would make us reconsider what those roles actually mean. I was hoping that Lucifer would actually become a better being by route through the fact that he had to take care of someone else. Instead of nurturing him to his own purposes, fatherhood can often be a game-changer for many man, and I was hoping it would be the same for an angel … in other words, Lucifer has an issue with his father; there’s no better way to learn how flawed your father is and love him in spite of it than being a father yourself. I was hoping; I don’t know if it’s good drama, but I was hoping fatherhood would teach Lucifer to repent and reconnect with his own father and understand that maybe dad wasn’t as bad as he thinks he is.

The nephilim is definitely another wildcard; he’d have the power to open the portal again, he can bring Lucifer out, he can do anything. It all depends on how he perceives all the principals. Does he perceive them as enemies, is Lucifer, his dad, an ally; I don’t know man, I’m going crazy!

Do you have any words of comfort for the fans of Castiel, Rowena or Crowley?

None. Nah, they’re going to have to sit in their pain until the first episode airs, and then maybe even beyond. I know the family, and I love them. I’m just being impish … if I did have words of encouragement, if I knew anything, maybe I would give the hint just give the fans a little bit of relief, but I don’t.Do you have any words of comfort for the fans of Castiel, Rowena or Crowley?

None. Nah, they’re going to have to sit in their pain until the first episode airs, and then maybe even beyond. I know the family, and I love them. I’m just being impish … if I did have words of encouragement, if I knew anything, maybe I would give the hint just give the fans a little bit of relief, but I don’t.
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet

The production office reopened on June 19.

Kim and Briana have seen a script from next season, and Kim tweeted to Kathryn Newton about seeing her “a lot” soon - this may be the Wayward Daughters episode we’ve all wanted. Considering that j2 said at Phoenix that they have not seen scripts yet, this may be a script from last season that was bumped to season 13.

Andrew Dabb hinted that something related to Claire may be revealed closer to San Diego Comic Con
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Supernatural Spinoff Wayward Sisters Starring Kim Rhodes Eyed at The CW

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The CW is taking another stab at a Supernatural spinoff, this one built around Kim Rhodes’ Sheriff Jody Mills.

According to Deadline, which first broke the news, the premise for the potential offshoot — tentatively titled Wayward Sisters — will be introduced in a Season 13 episode of Supernatural. Here’s the conceit: Sheriff Mills (played by Rhodes) and a group of troubled young women, all of them orphaned by supernatural tragedy, will team up as a supreme monster-fighting force.

“Unlike the original series, which centers on a biological brothers, Wayward Sisters is about a sisterhood of girls in a foster family,” Deadline reports.
The project is being shepherded by Supernatural writers-producers Andrew Dabb, Robert Singer, Phil Sgriccia, and Robert Berens.

Deadline speculates that two existing Supernatural characters, orphan Claire Novak and runaway Alex Jones, could be featured in the offshoot alongside Rhodes (whose character was first introduced in Season 5).

Back in 2014, The CW developed a Supernatural spinoff billed as a “sweeping drama about the mafia-esque monster families that, unknowingly to humans, run the underbelly of Chicago and who are being tracked by a newly minted Hunter.” Titled Supernatural: Bloodlines, the project never made it beyond a pilot.
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From Hollywoodnorth.buzz

SUPERNATURAL Season 13.

Starts filming July 12th. Wraps April 19th.

Cast: Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles.

Premieres Thursday, October 12th at 8 p.m. on The CW.
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Was Orphan Black Off Its Clone Game? Another Wayward Sis for Supernatural? Twin Peaks Hint Pays Off? And More Qs

10 | Supernatural fans, wouldn’t it make sense for the potential spinoff Wayward Sisters to also include young hunter Krissy (played by Madison McLaughlin, aka Arrow‘s probably dead Artemis)?
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More on Casting for Supernatural Spinoff Wayward Sisters

Briana Buckmaster's agency announced that she is signed for Wayward Sisters
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Could it be?..

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i'm gonna be returning to a show i've been on before...
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Huge CHARACTER spoiler for season 13 if it is true from IMDb.

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ETA: Nevermind. Casting spoilers have now been removed from IMDb.


More spoilers or a massive screw up or a big joke or all of the above from the IMDb pages for episodes 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 18, 21, 22, 23.

I wanted to check out the actor who plays Jack and saw he was already set up for episode 13.23 then checked to see who else might already be cast for that episode. What a surprise. See image below (hopefully).

Of course, then I had to see what other casting might already have been arranged for S13. Looks like SPN's writers are auditioning to write AU's for The Flash.

Check it out yourself, starting here.
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Jim Michaels‏ @TheJimMichaels Jul 4
And we are back! Season 13 pin! Thanks to Phil Sgriccia l! @cw_spn #SPNFamily #Supernatural
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Kevin Parks‏ @SNkevinandjill Jul 4
The start to Season 13! 1st concept meeting done and now scouting

Serge Ladouceur‏ @SergeLadouceur Jul 6
Supernatural has been part of my life for 12 years ... and it continues ... going on the survey bus tomorrow July 7th ... stay tuned
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Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 Jul 6
Loving our new #Supernatural hold music. Any thoughts on what our new song might be?

Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 17 hours ago
Since nobody guessed it, I'll let y'all know what we picked for our #Supernatural hold music to start this season.

Nazareth - This Flight Tonight

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Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 9 hours ago
Digging the new #Supernatural dash cards.
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Kevin Parks‏ @SNkevinandjill 17 hours ago
The best way to describe 13 years of #Supernatural! @SuperWiki @WinchesterBros @cw_spn @SPN_Fandom
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Adam Rose‏ @RealAdamRose Jun 27
just got some pretty amazing news

Adam Rose‏ @RealAdamRose Jun 27
i'm gonna be returning to a show i've been on before...

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I wonder......
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First Jim Michael's tweeted the S13 pin with Baby split down the middle.

Second there was the SPN Tape Ball Instagram of Jared alone tagged #birth (of the season's tape ball) and #new beginning and then
another Instagram of the S13 Pin along with used tape markers in Red, Yellow, Orange, Green and possibly Beige but no Blue tagged part tapeball part time machine.

Third Kevin Parks tweeted a picture of the of the location scene where Jared was filming that shows the edge of a hunter's funeral pyre in the bottom right of the frame.

Ominous and kind of exciting.
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  2. https://www.instagram.com/p/BWgUDE2gDhI/?taken-by=spntapeball
  3. https://www.instagram.com/p/BWjOfLUAdfm/?taken-by=spntapeball
  4. https://twitter.com/SNkevinandjill/status/886072428316590080
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CarryOn_SPN. (2017, Jul 14). The ladies are getting ready to start gun training, fight training, and stunt driving for the spinoff. #SPNCHI #CHICON .

FangasmSPN. (2017, Jul 14). .@kimrhodes4real : got an email from Phil sgriccia with a Keanu gif in combat. I.e. get ready for combat training! #wayward #SPNCHI.

RipUpTheEnding. (2017, Jul 14). “Phil is the producer & wants them to start badass stunt training, but not change their bodies to fit a female stereotype. #ChiCon #SPNChi.

WinFamBusiness. (2017, Jul 14). They just got an email telling them to start prepping for stunt driving and fighting skills for #waywardSisters!

CarryOn_SPN. (2017, Jul 14). .@kimrhodes4real doesn’t know if the show will have trans representation, but she knows she has power to campaign for that. #SPNCHI #CHICON.
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