Ok I admit: I really liked this episode and not just because the upstate New York setting reminded me a lot of where I grew up. (and well... my first kiss was with a girl named Robin too)

I liked not!Josh Brolin in this. He did a good job coming across as a someone stern but warm, the kind of guy boys would gravitate towards and look up to as they grow into men. He reminded me a lot of Lawrence from Office Space and now I want to watch a buddy comedy of those two, with their epic mustacheos.

I thought Dylan Everett did a pretty good job as young Dean and I think I may have to vote for him over Brock Kelly's previous portrayal (though it's a close race). He definitely looks like he could play the part of Matthew Cohen's son and I'm even a little bummed they didn't bring him back if Jeffery Dean Morgan was unavailable. Also, I notice Dylan has the same last name as the guy who played old Dean in the Curious Case episode. Any confirmation on if they're related? (if so, that was a BRILLIANT stunt of meta casting, kudos)

Also a major thumbs up to the actresses playing Timmy's mother who did an excellent job conveying a lot without lines. Though I am really curious why they split the role between two actresses instead of just using one. Speaking of which, it was nice to have a good old fashioned ghost story again (weird how those have become "comfort food" to us fans) but I am slightly bugged by... well why haven't we seen this before? You'd think ghost moms attached to their kids would be a LOT more common (then again, maybe they're not as murderous).

I wasn't happy with the lighting choices in this episode either as even with all the lights off and streaming to my HD TV I STILL couldn't see some scenes in this episode.

Now onto the rest...

I found myself liking Robin and thought both actresses playing her had good chemistry with the actors playing Dean. Though it did come off a bit like Lisa 2.0... eh I can't complain that much since I'm a sucker for young love reclaimed stories. To the point that I guess Robin now replaces Lisa as the 2nd place on my Dean shipping manifest. (hang on... I seem to have mixed metaphors)

I'm not going to fret about the timeline for right now though between this and that time Dean drove across America (when he met Lisa) and when Sam ran off and got a dog... at some point you start wondering how in the world the guys ever had any time left to do any boding! Or sleep. Heck given everything that we're told John tried doing with Adam and all this other stuff we keep finding out, I'm starting to think he must have had his soul removed because there's no way he got to sleep any himself.

Speaking of John... Look, I have a cousin who was a bit rambunctious growing up who didn't really mature or calm down when he reached adulthood but kept going down what you might call "the wild path". Of course one night he ended up in jail and my uncle decided to let him sit in there for a day or so (I never heard how long it really was). After that my cousin straightened up, got his life on track, and married a beautiful, awesome woman. So yeah, I don't entirely blame John for his choice here (plus now we know why Dean was so adapt in jail). We know from the A Very Supernatural Christmas that this wasn't the first time Dean had stolen something and with a father forced to be gone a lot, it's reasonable to assume the kid was heading down an even worse path than that of the hunter's life. Hunters have to skirt the legal bonds of society as it is, it's a very fine line that keeps them from being out and out petty criminals.

Still, 2 months? Why 2 months? I'll set the meta question aside (I think they could have done just as much with only 1 month) and look at it in story. First of all, given the injuries Dean suffers in their life, John probably has to deal with a lot of scrutiny from society. I don't believe he was ever physically abusive to him (any more than any father is when having to teach their sons hard lessons about life) but how could he explain that to anyone? The truth certainly won't keep the state from taking away his sons. So when Dean ended up in the home, it's probable that John decided he needed to lay low for awhile.

Second, I think John was giving Dean a chance. Going by his speech in The Song Remains the Same, we know that there was nobody on earth who was angrier with or hated John Winchester more than... John Winchester. He wants to give his sons a stable home and normal life but he just can't. It's not just about revenge, but also the wider world, they have a duty to others. Like I say, hunters are like cops and soldiers, they are needed to keep the rest of us safe and the gears of society from getting jammed by intrusive elements. The only problem is that hunters do not have the wider support of society as the latter two do, which also means they don't have the "comfort" of knowing that if their children don't take over the role, another person's child can. No, hunters must pass on their duties to their family else the monsters go unchecked and other families are torn apart. It sucks but what's the alternative? Letting hundreds die in a plane crash?



Still, although the accounts vary, it seems John did encourage Sam to go to college, so maybe this was the time John did that for Dean. Leave him in a normal place for 2 months then give Dean a choice on whether he wanted to stay or continue the hunter's path. Had Sonny "fought" for Dean, I don't think John would have fought back that much, just enough to make sure the other man would care for his son as much as John did. After all, he left the wrestling certificate with Sonny instead of putting it with Sam's trophy. Yet deep down, Dean wants to be a hero. To others. To his little brother. And so he takes the path less traveled.

It could also be John got caught up in a hunt, but I prefer the more poetical interpretation.



So far looks like this will be the best episode of the season.

Though does anyone else find it interesting that while younger, Dean had some habits that he seemed to "grow out of"? I'm actually rather surprised we don't see them still carving on beds and salting the door. A sign they're overconfident now or they have a bit of a death wish? Or something else? Hmmm...

(cross posted @ http://natewinchester.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/episode-review-bad-boys/)


Comments  

tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 00:34
I really really really appreciate your take on John and his possible motivation/reas oning for his actions surrounding this episode!

As a quick side note: in my teens, my parents actually sent me to a children's home for almost a year in the hopes it would curb my wild nature. Tough love can sometimes be the strongest love of all.

But, we simply don't know that side of the story.

Meanwhile, this episode will probably go down as an all time fave forever for me! Great write up!
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 00:34
I really really really appreciate your take on John and his possible motivation/reas oning for his actions surrounding this episode!

As a quick side note: in my teens, my parents actually sent me to a children's home for almost a year in the hopes it would curb my wild nature. Tough love can sometimes be the strongest love of all.

But, we simply don't know that side of the story.

Meanwhile, this episode will probably go down as an all time fave forever for me! Great write up!
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 00:41
With regards to the boys' no longer carving in the furniture, maybe that was curbed by staying at motels and dealing with hotel managers as they grew older? Or maybe they still do but the carvings are now in more subtle places?
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 00:41
With regards to the boys' no longer carving in the furniture, maybe that was curbed by staying at motels and dealing with hotel managers as they grew older? Or maybe they still do but the carvings are now in more subtle places?
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 06:13
I believe the bruises on Dean's wrists were caused when he fought with the cop and gave him a black eye. I assume he didn't want to be arrested and handcuffed and put up a struggle.
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 06:13
I believe the bruises on Dean's wrists were caused when he fought with the cop and gave him a black eye. I assume he didn't want to be arrested and handcuffed and put up a struggle.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 07:19
@Prix68 - Except Sonny doesn't assume they were caused by the cop scuffle and Dean flat out says they were from a werewolf fight. Which I tend to believe since making up that lie to cover for the cop would make no sense in context.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 07:19
@Prix68 - Except Sonny doesn't assume they were caused by the cop scuffle and Dean flat out says they were from a werewolf fight. Which I tend to believe since making up that lie to cover for the cop would make no sense in context.
Ale
# Ale 2013-11-22 07:32
Nate, thank you for defending John. I always thought John wasn't too far from Sam and Dean. In normal circunstances, he was of a sweet, kind nature, but that doesn't mean he can't be, or turned to, a tough SOB if needed be. He, just like our boys, wasn't a run away and hide kind of guy.

I also believe that he was not ONLY driven by revenge. I believe that his instincts were telling him that Mary wasn't the target, but that Sam was, and maybe even Dean. We don't know how much he figured out, or when, but I think he was trying so hard to hunt the YED to stop any evil plan he had for Sam and he hopped he could do it before his children had to know anything about that.

That is what I like to think about John. That is why he wanted to keep his children close to him, that is why he didn't trust anyone and was always moving around and that is why he was so angry when Sam went to Stanford, because he would be alone. He told Sam something like that in DMB and I believe him. He was not wrong, since we now know there were demons around Sam since he was a child.

He trusted Dean to watch Sam because Dean loved Sam and would protect him. It was SO unfair, I know, but what else could he have done? He was strict, he was a drill sargent, he prepared his boys like soldiers to fight a war but that is because he was scared for them, not because he was mean. "I wanted you to be prepared", he said in DMB, "but in the way I lost myself, I stopped being your father and became your drill sargent" (or something like that). I say again, I believe in him.

I also think that he was in constant fear of loosing his children for child care. I don't know if you've seen the deleted scenes in Season 01, there was one in Home when the man that owned the garage John worked said to Sam and Dean that John was loosing his mind talking about the occult and that he threatened to call child care. That is when he disappeared with the boys.

As you can see, I'm a John fan. I sympathise with the man. Parents, even in normal circunstances, risk to scar their children, even when they don't mean it. In those circunstances John faced, it was very difficult to be a good parent. And he was also human. He had to deal with his own fears, sadness, guilt and regret.

I'm truly sorry for the guy and I don't think he was a deadbeat father. He did what he could to protect his children.
Ale
# Ale 2013-11-22 07:32
Nate, thank you for defending John. I always thought John wasn't too far from Sam and Dean. In normal circunstances, he was of a sweet, kind nature, but that doesn't mean he can't be, or turned to, a tough SOB if needed be. He, just like our boys, wasn't a run away and hide kind of guy.

I also believe that he was not ONLY driven by revenge. I believe that his instincts were telling him that Mary wasn't the target, but that Sam was, and maybe even Dean. We don't know how much he figured out, or when, but I think he was trying so hard to hunt the YED to stop any evil plan he had for Sam and he hopped he could do it before his children had to know anything about that.

That is what I like to think about John. That is why he wanted to keep his children close to him, that is why he didn't trust anyone and was always moving around and that is why he was so angry when Sam went to Stanford, because he would be alone. He told Sam something like that in DMB and I believe him. He was not wrong, since we now know there were demons around Sam since he was a child.

He trusted Dean to watch Sam because Dean loved Sam and would protect him. It was SO unfair, I know, but what else could he have done? He was strict, he was a drill sargent, he prepared his boys like soldiers to fight a war but that is because he was scared for them, not because he was mean. "I wanted you to be prepared", he said in DMB, "but in the way I lost myself, I stopped being your father and became your drill sargent" (or something like that). I say again, I believe in him.

I also think that he was in constant fear of loosing his children for child care. I don't know if you've seen the deleted scenes in Season 01, there was one in Home when the man that owned the garage John worked said to Sam and Dean that John was loosing his mind talking about the occult and that he threatened to call child care. That is when he disappeared with the boys.

As you can see, I'm a John fan. I sympathise with the man. Parents, even in normal circunstances, risk to scar their children, even when they don't mean it. In those circunstances John faced, it was very difficult to be a good parent. And he was also human. He had to deal with his own fears, sadness, guilt and regret.

I'm truly sorry for the guy and I don't think he was a deadbeat father. He did what he could to protect his children.
LEAH
# LEAH 2013-11-22 07:35
I tend to lean towards Prix's idea that a scuffle with the annoyed cop was the cause of Dean's bruises. It was perfectly in Dean's character to not admit this. It wouldn't have improved the situation for him and the werewolf was a cooler story.
LEAH
# LEAH 2013-11-22 07:35
I tend to lean towards Prix's idea that a scuffle with the annoyed cop was the cause of Dean's bruises. It was perfectly in Dean's character to not admit this. It wouldn't have improved the situation for him and the werewolf was a cooler story.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 08:28
@Leah - But Sonny doesn't believe in werewolves, so Dean could have said "I got in a fight with Superman" for all the difference it would make if he was just lying to be cool (and it would seem just as truthful to Sonny).

And to lie about that part then makes his later reluctance to tell Sonny or Robin the truth about his family's business even weirder. I mean he'll use "the truth they know not" to make up a lie (which they'll know is a lie because they don't know the truth) but then he won't later use "the truth they know not" to express the truth to them? (which they would believe as much as his previous lie) WTF?
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 08:28
@Leah - But Sonny doesn't believe in werewolves, so Dean could have said "I got in a fight with Superman" for all the difference it would make if he was just lying to be cool (and it would seem just as truthful to Sonny).

And to lie about that part then makes his later reluctance to tell Sonny or Robin the truth about his family's business even weirder. I mean he'll use "the truth they know not" to make up a lie (which they'll know is a lie because they don't know the truth) but then he won't later use "the truth they know not" to express the truth to them? (which they would believe as much as his previous lie) WTF?
Nate
# Nate 2013-11-22 08:46
Nice review Nate, I agree with the John parts especially. Some have expressed they took this episode as character assassination. I didn’t see it that way, for many of the reasons you mention. First, we know John would be gone for months at a time. Usually the boys were off with Bobby, still in the Hunting world. This time, Dean got into some trouble with the law, and John decided to send him to a home for boys as punishment. But what if John knew he was about to be away for a couple of months, and hey, I’m going to send Dean to the home for boys, so he can learn a lesson, but at the same time get (maybe his first) a real break from Hunting? He may get to be a normal kid for a month or two, kiss a girl, win a tournament, not sit around filling bullets with salt. You could argue John gets kudos for giving Dean this peak into normal, and get the rest Nate mention’s above. I also think John would think no matter how normal things got for Dean, Dean would still not hesitate to come when John returned.
I don’t think Dean was conflicted at all about leaving Sonny’s. Sam asks Dean why he left, Dean responds it never felt right, and “it wasn’t me.” We then see the sad flashback of Sonny telling teen Dean his dad is back, and had a ‘job’. I have watched this scene a few times, and Dylan Everett KILLS it. His emotion of knowing he has to leave right now, but ‘come on! I have a girl!’ makes this hurt. His face (not words) as Sonny offers him the chance to stay perfectly shows Dean appreciate the offer, but no way is he going to take it, or even consider it. When dad rolls up in the Impala, it’s time to grab your stuff and GO. There are probably lives at stake. Dean knows this drill, he knows THAT is his life. He looks out the window sees Sam and smiles, and the interaction with Sonny after this is strong and determined: Thank you, but my real life is outside waiting. No regrets, Dean has no doubt about that. Again huge kudos to Dylan, he was incredible.
Nate
# Nate 2013-11-22 08:46
Nice review Nate, I agree with the John parts especially. Some have expressed they took this episode as character assassination. I didn’t see it that way, for many of the reasons you mention. First, we know John would be gone for months at a time. Usually the boys were off with Bobby, still in the Hunting world. This time, Dean got into some trouble with the law, and John decided to send him to a home for boys as punishment. But what if John knew he was about to be away for a couple of months, and hey, I’m going to send Dean to the home for boys, so he can learn a lesson, but at the same time get (maybe his first) a real break from Hunting? He may get to be a normal kid for a month or two, kiss a girl, win a tournament, not sit around filling bullets with salt. You could argue John gets kudos for giving Dean this peak into normal, and get the rest Nate mention’s above. I also think John would think no matter how normal things got for Dean, Dean would still not hesitate to come when John returned.
I don’t think Dean was conflicted at all about leaving Sonny’s. Sam asks Dean why he left, Dean responds it never felt right, and “it wasn’t me.” We then see the sad flashback of Sonny telling teen Dean his dad is back, and had a ‘job’. I have watched this scene a few times, and Dylan Everett KILLS it. His emotion of knowing he has to leave right now, but ‘come on! I have a girl!’ makes this hurt. His face (not words) as Sonny offers him the chance to stay perfectly shows Dean appreciate the offer, but no way is he going to take it, or even consider it. When dad rolls up in the Impala, it’s time to grab your stuff and GO. There are probably lives at stake. Dean knows this drill, he knows THAT is his life. He looks out the window sees Sam and smiles, and the interaction with Sonny after this is strong and determined: Thank you, but my real life is outside waiting. No regrets, Dean has no doubt about that. Again huge kudos to Dylan, he was incredible.
Bevie
# Bevie 2013-11-22 11:16
I don't dislike John for this at all. In fact, I believe he let Dean stay in custody to teach him that getting caught.....not stealing......w as unacceptable in their line of business. I'm sure Dean learned that lesson well as we've seen since. :-*

With all the pool hustling, poker hustling, credit card fraud and stolen identities, I very much doubt John would be concerned about a little peanut butter and bread. But getting caught? Definitely a 'No No'!. :sigh:
Bevie
# Bevie 2013-11-22 11:16
I don't dislike John for this at all. In fact, I believe he let Dean stay in custody to teach him that getting caught.....not stealing......w as unacceptable in their line of business. I'm sure Dean learned that lesson well as we've seen since. :-*

With all the pool hustling, poker hustling, credit card fraud and stolen identities, I very much doubt John would be concerned about a little peanut butter and bread. But getting caught? Definitely a 'No No'!. :sigh:
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 11:18
Hah! Thanks Bevie, I meant to put that in and left it out. Yeah there's also the possibility he was mad at Dean for getting caught.

Though I'm not sure hustling is against the law... anyone confirm?
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 11:18
Hah! Thanks Bevie, I meant to put that in and left it out. Yeah there's also the possibility he was mad at Dean for getting caught.

Though I'm not sure hustling is against the law... anyone confirm?
cheryl42
# cheryl42 2013-11-22 12:27
Probably punching the police officer didn't help either. I am sure John wouldn't have appreciated that.
cheryl42
# cheryl42 2013-11-22 12:27
Probably punching the police officer didn't help either. I am sure John wouldn't have appreciated that.
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 13:33
Quoting Nate Winchester:
@Prix68 - Except Sonny doesn't assume they were caused by the cop scuffle and Dean flat out says they were from a werewolf fight. Which I tend to believe since making up that lie to cover for the cop would make no sense in context.


In a 'tough-guy' teenager's head the success of the black eye would have been negated by the cop giving him bruises back (or it even being in retaliation for the cop giving him bruises). Dean is pretending to Sonny, and not terribly seriously, that he hit the cop and the cop having 'lost' backed off.

A werewolf wouldn't give bruises on his arm at all - not ones that looked like fingerprints.

I think it was manhandling to get the cuffs on. But the cop should have been reported for injuring a kid, and a prisoner, like that.
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 13:33
Quote:
@Prix68 - Except Sonny doesn't assume they were caused by the cop scuffle and Dean flat out says they were from a werewolf fight. Which I tend to believe since making up that lie to cover for the cop would make no sense in context.
In a 'tough-guy' teenager's head the success of the black eye would have been negated by the cop giving him bruises back (or it even being in retaliation for the cop giving him bruises). Dean is pretending to Sonny, and not terribly seriously, that he hit the cop and the cop having 'lost' backed off.

A werewolf wouldn't give bruises on his arm at all - not ones that looked like fingerprints.

I think it was manhandling to get the cuffs on. But the cop should have been reported for injuring a kid, and a prisoner, like that.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 14:09
@elif - 1) But again, we're talking about Dean making up a lie, that's obviously a lie in Sonny's eye. Along the lines of "I was wrestling the incredible Hulk" without any sarcasm to it. 2) And don't gloss over the following paragraph I wrote which points out that the mental gymnastics to make the rest of the episode fit with that interpretation is not worth whatever anyone gets out of "cop abused Dean".
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 14:09
@elif - 1) But again, we're talking about Dean making up a lie, that's obviously a lie in Sonny's eye. Along the lines of "I was wrestling the incredible Hulk" without any sarcasm to it. 2) And don't gloss over the following paragraph I wrote which points out that the mental gymnastics to make the rest of the episode fit with that interpretation is not worth whatever anyone gets out of "cop abused Dean".
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 15:24
#4 I would say Dean got the bruises from struggling with the cop (not abused by the cop) and knew that hitting a cop and resisting arrest was not good. Didn't want Sonny to make a bigger deal of it with the cop, probably hoping the cop wouldn't charge him. The werewolf comment was him still being a smart ass because he knew werewolves were real and Sonny doesn't (I know stuff you don't know) and would make it clear he wasn't going to be forthcoming with any actual info. because he said something outrageous.

Dean has a history of saying smartass remarks to people in authority just because. (See S1, Ep.1) besides a werewolf is a wolf and I don't think they have hands. But I'm not up on my werewolf lore.
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 15:24
#4 I would say Dean got the bruises from struggling with the cop (not abused by the cop) and knew that hitting a cop and resisting arrest was not good. Didn't want Sonny to make a bigger deal of it with the cop, probably hoping the cop wouldn't charge him. The werewolf comment was him still being a smart ass because he knew werewolves were real and Sonny doesn't (I know stuff you don't know) and would make it clear he wasn't going to be forthcoming with any actual info. because he said something outrageous.

Dean has a history of saying smartass remarks to people in authority just because. (See S1, Ep.1) besides a werewolf is a wolf and I don't think they have hands. But I'm not up on my werewolf lore.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 15:37
No, Prix68, you're thinking of skinwalkers.
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Skinwalker

Werewolves look just like humans except for variation in the eyes, teeth and nails.
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Werewolf

They very much have hands.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 15:37
No, Prix68, you're thinking of skinwalkers.
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Skinwalker

Werewolves look just like humans except for variation in the eyes, teeth and nails.
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Werewolf

They very much have hands.
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 16:13
# 15 no I am not thinking of skinwalkers. That was a reference to an episode where Dean was a smartass with a cop.

The last show I watched that had a werewolf was JC's show, I think it's called "Being Human" and that guy became a full on wolf. Really it's not that important since Dean said he wasn't mistreated and I don't think he was physically abused by anyone.
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 16:13
# 15 no I am not thinking of skinwalkers. That was a reference to an episode where Dean was a smartass with a cop.

The last show I watched that had a werewolf was JC's show, I think it's called "Being Human" and that guy became a full on wolf. Really it's not that important since Dean said he wasn't mistreated and I don't think he was physically abused by anyone.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 16:16
Quoting Prix68:
# 15 no I am not thinking of skinwalkers. That was a reference to an episode where Dean was a smartass with a cop.


I was responding to:
"besides a werewolf is a wolf and I don't think they have hands. But I'm not up on my werewolf lore."
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 16:16
Quote:
# 15 no I am not thinking of skinwalkers. That was a reference to an episode where Dean was a smartass with a cop.
I was responding to:
"besides a werewolf is a wolf and I don't think they have hands. But I'm not up on my werewolf lore."
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 16:38
Hey, you liked the episode so we can agree on that and judging from some of the comments other places that's a big win! Lol
Prix68
# Prix68 2013-11-22 16:38
Hey, you liked the episode so we can agree on that and judging from some of the comments other places that's a big win! Lol
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 16:55
Actually it means the world's about to end. ;)
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2013-11-22 16:55
Actually it means the world's about to end. ;)
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 16:58
Quoting Nate Winchester:
@elif - 1) But again, we're talking about Dean making up a lie, that's obviously a lie in Sonny's eye. Along the lines of "I was wrestling the incredible Hulk" without any sarcasm to it. 2) And don't gloss over the following paragraph I wrote which points out that the mental gymnastics to make the rest of the episode fit with that interpretation is not worth whatever anyone gets out of "cop abused Dean".

But I just took it as a throwaway line, sorry I didn't read much more into it. A 16 year old wants to look tough, the black eye makes him feel tough, Sonny looks at a kid who, from his point of view is coming close to getting into real trouble, but he can also see that with a bit of help he can kept on the straight and narrow.
*shrug* I don't think it is meant to mean more than that.
I am sorry I don't know which paragraph you mean?
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 16:58
Quote:
@elif - 1) But again, we're talking about Dean making up a lie, that's obviously a lie in Sonny's eye. Along the lines of "I was wrestling the incredible Hulk" without any sarcasm to it. 2) And don't gloss over the following paragraph I wrote which points out that the mental gymnastics to make the rest of the episode fit with that interpretation is not worth whatever anyone gets out of "cop abused Dean".
But I just took it as a throwaway line, sorry I didn't read much more into it. A 16 year old wants to look tough, the black eye makes him feel tough, Sonny looks at a kid who, from his point of view is coming close to getting into real trouble, but he can also see that with a bit of help he can kept on the straight and narrow.
*shrug* I don't think it is meant to mean more than that.
I am sorry I don't know which paragraph you mean?
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 17:51
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 17:51
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 18:08
Quoting tw1nsm0m:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.

Well that answers that then :D thank you!
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 18:08
Quote:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.
Well that answers that then :D thank you!
leah d.
# leah d. 2013-11-22 18:22
IQuoting tw1nsm0m:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.

I came here to say the exact same thing eilf! :-) So case closed ,thanks tw1nsmOm!
leah d.
# leah d. 2013-11-22 18:22
IQuote:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.
I came here to say the exact same thing eilf! :-) So case closed ,thanks tw1nsmOm!
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 18:29
Quoting leah d.:
IQuoting tw1nsm0m:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.

I came here to say the exact same thing eilf! :-) So case closed ,thanks tw1nsmOm!

The twitter foot-noter is a very useful thing really ....
eilf
# eilf 2013-11-22 18:29
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IQuote:
On Nov. 20th Adam Glass tweeted that the marks on Dean's wrists/arms were indeed from a werewolf in a response to the question.
I came here to say the exact same thing eilf! :-) So case closed ,thanks tw1nsmOm!
The twitter foot-noter is a very useful thing really ....
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 19:04
You guys are very welcome! Happy I could be helpful. :D
tw1nsm0m
# tw1nsm0m 2013-11-22 19:04
You guys are very welcome! Happy I could be helpful. :D